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| 2005/10/19-21 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/California/Arnold] UID:40195 Activity:moderate |
10/19 Is there an "unbiased" site that gives the straight dope about what
each proposition is really about, and what the pros and cons are?
\_ It's the GOVERNATOR! What do you expect? More tax cuts for the
corporation and the people who have made it. That is the basic
platform of the conservatives.
\_ wait, you're actually going to vote on those?
\_ The voter pamphlet you get from the state will have the pro/con
from biased sources and the 'neutral' description from the state.
And why wouldn't someone vote on them?
\_ the voter pamphlet only has so much space and my past experience
with it has been somewhat unsatisfactory.
\_ Just vote no on 73, 74, 75, 76 and 77 and yes on 79 and 80 if you
are a lefty and do the reverse if you are a righty. I'd personally
vote no on all of them because I think they all muck around with
things that we don't fully understand, but since nobody listens
to anybody anymore just tow the party line.
\_ toe
\_ Why would redistricting have anything to do with left or right?
\_ Ahnud says vote yes on 73-78 and no on 79, 80. The reality is
it makes no difference how you vote, b/c if everyone votes no
the law doesn't get passed but if everyone votes yes, the law
will be struck down by the courts.
\_ I thought we paid the legislature to legislate.
\_ no, the various lobbies and special interest groups pay the
legislators to legislate. We just occasionally vote them in
or out.
\_ I advocate voting against all propositions on principle, regardless
of issue. The system sucks and should be done away with.
</flamebait>
\_ pretty much... check out this prop that passed:
http://www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/state/prop/63
It's bluntly stupid. I guess you can pass anything as long as
it targets a rich enough tax bracket.
oh and that smartvoter site might help the OP:
http://www.smartvoter.org/2005/11/08/ca/state/prop
\_ Why do you love rich people john? I don't mind having
Michael Jackson and Paris Hilton's cousins pay a bit
more for basic infrastructures to help out the rest.
At any rate the rich bourgeois already own vast amounts
of land in metropolitan areas and they have been, are, and
will continue to gobble up empty, underutilized suburbian
vacation homes. They also run and control mega apartment
complexes in hot spots of metro cities and artificially
inflate land values (Irvine) which really screw up the rest
of us working class prolitariats. -fuck capitalism
oh and that smartvoter site might help the OP:
http://www.smartvoter.org/2005/11/08/ca/state/prop
(oh and that http://smartvoter.org site might help the OP:
http://www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/state/prop/63 )
\_ i'm not John, don't interrupt, and you = bluntly stupid
\_ Because I'm a fat bloated plutocrat bastard tool of the
running dog imperialists. Because I hate hippie long-
hairs and think all the colored folks should limit their
career aspirations to serving me and Muffy drinks at the
country club. Because I like the idea of a Metropolis-
like tribe of underclass laborers being squashed under my
mighty oppressive boot. Excuse me? -John
\_ Vote Yes on 77. Redistricting in an impartial way is the key to
making districts more competitive, which should reduce the number
amount of extremism, left or right, in the legislature. ok tks -!psb
making districts more competitive, which should reduce the amount
of extremism, left or right, in the legislature. ok tks -!psb
\_ As above, show me that it's not impartial now, and you might
change my mind on 77. Oh, and btw, it's "ok thx" |
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| www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/state/prop/63 -> www.smartvoter.org/2004/11/02/ca/state/prop/63/ Arguments | Should a 1% tax on taxable personal income above $1 million to fund expan ded health services for mentally ill children, adults, seniors be establ ished? Summary Prepared by Attorney General: * Provides funds to counties to expand services and develop innovative programs and integrated service plans for mentally ill children, adults and seniors. Fiscal Impact from the Legislative Analyst: Additional state revenues of about $800 million annually by 2006+07, with comparable annual increases in total state and county expenditures for expansion of mental health programs. Unknown partially offsetting saving s to state and local agencies. Meaning of Voting Yes/No A YES vote of this measure means: A surcharge on state personal income taxes would be enacted for taxpayers with annual taxable incomes of more than $1 million to finance an expansion of county mental health programs. A NO vote of this measure means: Funding for county mental health programs would largely be dependent upon actions by the Legislature and Governor. Impartial Analysis from the Legislative Analyst Arguments Submitted Summary of Arguments FOR Proposition 63: Proposition 63 expands mental health care for children and adults, using programs proven to be effective. Paid for by 1% tax on taxable personal income over $1 million. Supported by nurses, mental health professionals, law enforcement, educators. Full Text of Argument In Favor Summary of Arguments AGAINST Proposition 63: Prop. It doesn't treat the mentally ill, but is a shortsighted substitute for long-term solutions. Built on a shaky funding scheme, 63 drives away the very taxpayers it needs, destroying its own funding source. Don't jeopardize the health of thousands with a feel-good plan. Criteria for Evaluating Ballot Propositions Events LWV Pros & Cons Public Meetings * Come to a meeting in your community where League experts discuss all state ballot propositions giving a nonpartisan analysis. |
| www.smartvoter.org/2005/11/08/ca/state/prop -> www.smartvoter.org/2005/11/08/ca/state/prop/ Waiting Period and Parental Notification Before Termin ation of Minor's Pregnancy -- State of California (Initiative Constitutional Amendment) Should the California Constitution be amended to require notification of the parent or legal guardian of an unemancipated, pregnant minor at least 48 hours before performing an abortion on the minor? Dismissal -- State of California (Initiative Statute) Should the probationary period for public school teachers be increased from two to five years, and should the process by which school boards can dismiss a permanent certificated employee be modified? Employee Consent Requirement -- State of California (Initiative Statute) Should public employee unions be required to obtain annual written consent from each member in order to use a portion of that member's dues for political activity? State Spending and School Funding Limits -- State of C alifornia (Initiative Constitutional Amendment) Should Californians make major Constitutional changes to create an additional state spending limit, grant the governor substantial new power to unilaterally reduce state spending, and revise key provisions relating to Proposition 98, school and community college funding, and transportation funding authorized by Proposition 42? Initiative Constitutional Amendment -- State of California (Initiative Constitutional Amendment) Should the California Constitution be amended to change the process of redistricting California's State Senate, State Assembly, Congressional and Board of Equalization districts, transferring the implementation of redistricting from the Legislature to a panel of three retired judges, selected by legislative leaders? Discounts on Prescription Drugs -- State of California (Initiative Statute) Should the state adopt a new state drug discount program to reduce the costs of prescription drugs for Californians at or below 300 percent of the federal poverty level? State-Negotiated Rebates -- State of California (Initiative Statute) Should the state of California create a new prescription drug discount program for residents at or below 400 percent of the federal poverty level, and change state law to make it illegal to engage in profiteering from the sale of prescription drugs? Criteria for Evaluating Ballot Propositions Events LWV Pros & Cons Public Meetings * Come to a meeting in your community where League experts discuss all state ballot propositions giving a nonpartisan analysis. |
| smartvoter.org Find other local elections (from the CA Secretary of State). VOTING INFORMATION Do you have questions about * voting by mail (absentee ballot) * early voting * your registration status? First availabl e only for Santa Clara, San Mateo, San Francisco counties and Glendale i n Los Angeles County, find contact information about your current govern ment officials from school district to president of the United States. We have more work to do, but thought y ou might want a peek! Welcome to Smart Voter * 2005 Elections Most counties in California are conducting local elections on November 8, 2005. League of Women Voters organizations supporting local elections are in th e process of contacting candidates to ask for their participation. Candi dates are contacted after Smart Voter receives and processes official ca ndidate lists from county elections offices. We offer all candidates fre e web space to help inform voters. |