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2005/10/12-13 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:40053 Activity:moderate
10/12   Bush: "Miers is qualified because she's an evangelical Christian!"
        Huh?  Since when is the Supreme Court our council of Mullahs?
        \_ Wah?  URL please.
           \_ http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/12/D8D6K760J.html
              \_ What you said and what that article said are not the same.
                 I don't like Miers either but you don't need to make stuff up
                 about her.  It doesn't promote your point.
                 \_ Bush essentially said that part of the reason she is
                    qualified is that she's an evangelical.  This is serious
                    business and borderline unconstitutional (see the
                    Establishment clause re: religious litmus tests for
                    holding office).  I didn't make up jack shit about Miers.
                    \_ "Essentially said..." is not the same a making a direct
                       quote.  I saw nothing new in the article.  I was
                       looking for that shocking quote.  Silly me, it's the
                       motd.
                       \_ "I would remind you that extremism in the defense
                          of libety is no vice.  And let me remind you also
                          that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no
                          virtue."
                          \_ Lying isn't what they were talking about when
                             they said that.
                             \_ An original constructionist!  I am more of a
                                living document fan myself.  In moderation,
                                of course.
                                \_ Funny.  Thanks for the laugh.
                    \_ He's using that to pacify rabid pro-lifers, saying
                       she won't expand (and may overturn) Roe vs. Wade.
                       Unfortunately, most conservatives aren't one-issue
                       people, and we'd rather have someone who will interpret
                       the Constitution according to principles we agree with,
                       irrespective of any one issue. -emarkp
                       \_ True, she must oppose abortion, gay marriage, and
                          support "under God" in the pledge. That's three!
        \_ if you want to bash Dubya, hyperbole / exaggeration is not required
           \_ Perhaps, but invention is easier than truth.
              \_ "Intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no
                 doubt that the Iraq regime continues to possess and conceal
                 some of the most lethal weapons ever devised. ... The United
                 States and other nations did nothing to deserve or invite this
                 threat. But we will do everything to defeat it. Instead of
                 drifting along toward tragedy, we will set a course toward
                 safety. Before the day of horror can come, before it is too
                 late to act, this danger will be removed. ... Recognizing the
                 threat to our country, the United States Congress voted
                 overwhelmingly last year to support the use of force against
                 Iraq." -Dubya (March 17, 2003)
                 \_ Well, I personally aim to be more fair and honest than
                    GWB.  Perhaps it's unreasonable for me to expect the same
                    of the OP.
                    \_ you're saying op is less fair / honest than Dubya?
                       \_ ! (op > GWB) != op < GWB
                          \_ okay, then let's put an equals sign in there too.
                             \_ It's not *me* saying it.  It's the OP saying
                                it when he posted the GWB quote (or whoever
                                it is who poasted the quote) after I accused
                                him of invention.
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www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/12/D8D6K760J.html
By NEDRA PICKLER Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON President Bush said Wednesday his advisers were telling conservatives abo ut Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers' religious beliefs because they a re interested in her background and "part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion." "People are interested to know why I picked Harriet Miers," Bush told rep orters at the White House. They want to know as much as they possibly can before they form opinion s And part of Harriet Miers' life is her religion." Bush, speaking at the conclusion of an Oval Office meeting with visiting Polish President Aleksander Kwasniewski, said that his advisers were rea ching out to conservatives who oppose her nomination "just to explain th e facts." He spoke on a day in which conservative James Dobson, founder of Focus on Family, said he had discussed the nominee's religious views with presid ential aide Karl Rove. Not even a congressional recess nor Bush's preoccupation with hurricane r ecovery and affairs of state have shrouded the continuing controversy su rrounding his selection of Miers to replace the retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor. Debate about Miers' credentials was prominent on the Sunda y television talk shows and has continued to occupy considerable attenti on on the Internet. Some of Bush's conservative critics say Miers has no judicial record that proves she will strictly interpret the Constitution and not _ as Busy s ays _ "legislate from the bench." They argue that Bush passed up other m ore qualified candidates to nominate someone from his inner circle. On a radio show being broadcast Wednesday, Dobson said he discussed Miers with Rove on Oct. Dobs on said Rove told him "she is from a very conservative church, which is almost universally pro-life," but denied he had gotten any assurances fr om the White House that she would vote to overturn the 1973 Roe v Wade decision that legalized abortion. Patrick Leahy, ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, said: "T he rest of America, including the Senate, deserves to know what he and t he White House know." "We don't confirm Justices of the Supreme Court on a wink and a nod. And a litmus test is no less a litmus test by using whispers and signals," t he Vermont senator said. "No political faction should be given a monopol y of relevant knowledge about a nomination, just as no faction should be permitted to hound a nominee to withdraw, before the hearing process ha s even begun." Earlier Wednesday, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales asserted that Miers would bring "a unique brand of experience" to the high court and would t hat the concerns of critics would be eased once more is known about her. Gonzales, himself once considered a leading candidate for a vacancy there , said there is "nothing unique or earth-shattering" about Miers' nomina tion and said people should give her time to say who she is and what she believes. Also, presidential spokesman Scott McClellan acknowledged there were some prospective candidates who told the White House that they preferred not to be considered, citing the ordeal of the confirmation process. "There are plenty of good people willing to be considered. McClellan later said that "it was just a couple of people" who asked that their names be withdrawn, and it happened when the field of candidates was "in the double digits." He declined to say whether "a couple" meant just two _ or more. Asked why Rove would have discussed Miers' religious views if the preside nt ascribes to a conservative judicial philosophy that backs a strict in terpretation of the Constitution regardless of one's views on various is sues, McClellan said it was just part of an "outreach" to help people ge t to know Miers. "What we have seen so far," Leahy said, "is more of a commentary on the l itmus tests and narrow motivations of vocal factions on the Republican r ight than it is a commentary on the qualifications of Harriet Miers."