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10/11 http://www.toyota.com/prius/specs.html http://tinyurl.com/cgtar (honda.com, click on View and print the Fact) Quick comparison between the two auto transmissions: Honda Toyota Compression: 10.8:1 13.0:1 <--- big difference Gas HP 85-87HP 76HP Elec HP 13.4HP 67HP <--- big difference MPG 47-48MPG 55-60MPG <--- big difference Cost $20,900 $21,275 <--- little difference Sorry, but Honda is clearly a big loser. Their engines suck, their electric moter is weak, their mileage is lower, and it's only $300 cheaper. I don't understand why they even bother to compete. \_ looks, my friend. people go for the looks of it. \_ With only 13.4HP, can the Civic run on electricity alone at all? \- people buy crappy regular cars. why does it surprise you they may buy crappy hybrids. \_ But with horsepower as low as 13.4, the engine might need to stay on all the time, which defeats the purpose of having hybrid. \_ The electric motor's for low speeds, where torque is much more important than peak HP. Picture a team of 13 horses attached to the front of your car. They could get it going from a standstill just fine... they just couldn't go 70. \_ On the Prius, the electric is used to replace the gas engine in low power situations. On the Civic, its used to augment the power of the gas engine so they can use a smaller more efficient gas engine than on a conventional Civic. \_ can hybrids pass other cars? Is it safe to pass on a mt. road with a hybrid? \_ No, it's better to pass with a big SUV like the Ford Excursion. It's really cool too. Even the Hummer looks small beside it. \_ That guy on the bicycle with the RPG will be me. \_ speaking of honda hybrids: http://money.cnn.com/2005/10/12/Autos/most_efficient_cars/index.htm \_ what is the difference between 2006 Insight and previous version? they looked the same. |
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| www.toyota.com/prius/specs.html Not all options are available separately and some options and accessor ies may not be available in all regions of the country. So please contac t your Toyota dealer, who can help locate the vehicle that's right for y ou. For details on vehicle specifications, standard features and available equipment in your area, contact your Toyota dealer. A veh icle with particular equipment may not be available at the dealership. A sk your Toyota dealer to help locate a specifically equipped vehicle. All information presented herein is based on data available at the time o f posting, is subject to change without notice and pertains specifically to mainland USA vehicles only (may differ in the state of Hawaii, Pu erto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and in other regions). Not all options are available separately and some options and accessor ies may not be available in all regions of the country. So please contac t your Toyota dealer, who can help locate the vehicle that's right for y ou. For details on vehicle specifications, standard features and available equipment in your area, contact your Toyota dealer. A veh icle with particular equipment may not be available at the dealership. A sk your Toyota dealer to help locate a specifically equipped vehicle. All information presented herein is based on data available at the time o f posting, is subject to change without notice and pertains specifically to mainland USA vehicles only (may differ in the state of Hawaii, Pu erto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and in other regions). Not all options are available separately and some options and accessor ies may not be available in all regions of the country. So please contac t your Toyota dealer, who can help locate the vehicle that's right for y ou. For details on vehicle specifications, standard features and available equipment in your area, contact your Toyota dealer. A veh icle with particular equipment may not be available at the dealership. A sk your Toyota dealer to help locate a specifically equipped vehicle. All information presented herein is based on data available at the time o f posting, is subject to change without notice and pertains specifically to mainland USA vehicles only (may differ in the state of Hawaii, Pu erto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and in other regions). Standard P185/65R15 Spare Temporary Please remember, some vehicles are built with popular option combinations . Not all options are available separately and some options and accessor ies may not be available in all regions of the country. So please contac t your Toyota dealer, who can help locate the vehicle that's right for y ou. For details on vehicle specifications, standard features and available equipment in your area, contact your Toyota dealer. A veh icle with particular equipment may not be available at the dealership. A sk your Toyota dealer to help locate a specifically equipped vehicle. All information presented herein is based on data available at the time o f posting, is subject to change without notice and pertains specifically to mainland USA vehicles only (may differ in the state of Hawaii, Pu erto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and in other regions). Not all options are available separately and some options and accessor ies may not be available in all regions of the country. So please contac t your Toyota dealer, who can help locate the vehicle that's right for y ou. For details on vehicle specifications, standard features and available equipment in your area, contact your Toyota dealer. A veh icle with particular equipment may not be available at the dealership. A sk your Toyota dealer to help locate a specifically equipped vehicle. All information presented herein is based on data available at the time o f posting, is subject to change without notice and pertains specifically to mainland USA vehicles only (may differ in the state of Hawaii, Pu erto Rico, the US Virgin Islands and in other regions). |
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| money.cnn.com/2005/10/12/Autos/most_efficient_cars/index.htm Research used cars NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - The Honda Insight, a gas-electric hybrid car, edge d out the Toyota Prius as the most fuel-efficient vehicle in the US, a ccording to new mileage ratings from the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of Energy. Both get an estimated 60 miles per gallon in city driving. The Insight, a two-seat car, gets an estimated 66 miles an gallon on the highway, though, while the Prius gets 55 miles per gallon. The Prius, a four-seat car that's classified as mid-sized, uses a differe nt hybrid system that delivers better mileage in stop-and-go driving tha n in steady highway cruising. The EPA's fuel economy figures are based on laboratory tests. Drivers in real-world conditions generally report lower actual mileage. Mileage estimates for the redesigned 2006 Honda Civic hybrid are not yet available. The 2005 version ranked fourth overall last year, behind two versions of the Insight and the Prius. The Prius is the most efficient "mid-sized" sedan by a wide margin. The H yundai Elantra is listed as the most efficient non-hybrid mid-sized seda n It gets an estimated 34 miles per gallon on the highway and 27 in the city. Diesel-powered cars from Volkswagen took the top spots in the "compact" a nd "sub-compact" car categories. The diesel VW Beetle with manual transm ission is the most efficient sub-compact and the VW Golf diesel, which i s built on the same vehicle structure as the Beetle, is the most efficie nt compact. Both get an estimated 44 mpg on the highway and 37 in the ci ty. The Beetle and Golf tied for third in overall mileage rankings. Among SUVs, the Ford Escape hybrid is the most efficient. The Mercury Mariner hybrid and Mazda Tribute hybrid are very similar and get the same mileage. |