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2005/10/6-9 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:40001 Activity:nil
10/6    Larry Elder writing about Bill Bennett: http://csua.org/u/dnf
        "How does one artfully say that out of a small percentage of America's
        population -- 13 percent -- blacks account for 37.2 percent of all
        those arrested for violent crimes, 54.4 percent of all robbery
        arrestees, and are the known offenders in 51.3 percent of all murders?
        The murder rate in the city of New Orleans stands at over 7.5 times the
        national average, and authorities convict only one in four arrested for
        homicide."
        \_ One recognizes it's not about their race, but other factors.
           \_ Ever wonder why white collar crime is never broken up by race?
              \_ Because white collar crime are not violent crimes?  People
                 fear less for white collar crimes than for violent crimes,
                 even in homogeneous society.
                 \_ A mugger will only take your wallet.  Kenny boy will end
                    your job, take your life savings and put you on the
                    street!
                    \_ but Kenny boy is dubya's friend...
                    \_ But a mugger would stab me to death as he pleases.
                       \_ Why? If caught mugger/killer could face life in
                          prison or death penalty. If Kenny is caught, well,
                          he's still free ain't he?
                          \_ Savings and credit can be rebuilt; a perforated
                             heart probably can't be.  If a guy is mugging you
                             to begin with, considerations such as "he might
                             get caught" aren't really a serious deterrent.
                             Violent crime isn't inherently rational to begin
                             with -- which is partially what makes it scary
                             (aside from, you know, the possibility of being
                             stabbed to death or getting raped).
                             \_ Which would be true if every mugging resulted
                                in death, rape, etc. But they don't. Odds are
                                Kenny will do less time for damaging thousands
                                lives than some fool who gets caught for doing
                                for robbing $100 from somone.
                                \_ It's not what "will" happen, it's the fact
                                   that it "can" happen -- and is far more
                                   likely a possibility.  Honestly, I'm not
                                   even sure what the point of the conversation
                                   is.  I'm not going to be able to keep on
                                   posting to this thread -- too much going on
                                   here right now.  Perhaps the other guy will
                                   pick up the thread.  Sorry man.
                                \_ Not to mention few robbers can rob thousands
                                   at once or steal Billions.  The amount of
                                   money stolen by bank robbers is
                                   insignificant to what the white collar
                                   crooks can steal.
                       \_ Why? If caught mugger could face life in prison or
                          death penalty. If Kenny is caught, well, he's still
                          free ain't he?
        \_ That article has some stellar quotes.
              \_ Because white collar crime are not violent crimes?
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A "I do know that it's true," said former secretary of education and drug c zar William Bennett, "that if you wanted to reduce crime, you could -- i f that were your sole purpose -- you could abort every black baby in thi s country, and your crime rate would go down. That would be an impossibl e, ridiculous, and morally reprehensible thing to do, but your crime rat e would go down. So these far-out, these far-reaching, extensive extrapo lations are, I think, tricky." Bennett, who hosts a radio show, was responding to a caller's suggestion. The caller argued that but for the loss of life through abortion, Socia l Security would be more solvent, with more workers contributing to the system. Bennett rejected that end-to-the-means argument, and offered the black abortion hypothetical as an equally silly end-justifies-the-means argument. The network ran a " tease": Bill Bennett (audio) "I do know that it's true that if you wante d to reduce crime, you could -- if that were your sole purpose -- you co uld abort every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down." The former e ducation secretary is now feeling the heat this morning, from remarks he made on his radio show about African-Americans and abortion." MSNBC als o ran a "crawler" at the bottom of the screen, providing a phone number for viewers to call and respond to the question, "Is Bennett's comment r eprehensible?" Before the commercial break, MSNBC left out a vital part of Bennett's st atement, which called his abortion hypothetical "morally reprehensible." Nor did MSNBC inform the viewers of Bennett's qualifying statement, eve n after coming back from their break! The White House said Bennett's remarks "were not appropriate." CNN's Jeff Greenfield somberly called Bennett's comments "in artful." The murder rate i n the city of New Orleans stands at over 75 times the national average, and authorities convict only one in four arrested for homicide. Speaking of "inartful," back in 1993, a noted civil rights leader made t he following comment: "There is nothing more painful to me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start th inking about robbery -- then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." Despite calls to do so, Bennett, as of this writing, refuses to apologiz e Maybe Bennett awaits an apology from Al Gore's former campaign manage r, Donna Brazile, who talked about the importance of defeating the Repub licans: "White boys," she said, has nothing to do with "gender or race, it's an attitude. Charles Rangel, D-NY, who , speaking about the 1994 Republican Congress, said, "It's not 'spic' or 'nigger' any more. has selected nominees from the Taliban wing of Am erican politics, appeased the wretched appetites of the extreme right wi ng, and chosen Cabinet officials whose devotion to the Confederacy is ne arly canine in its uncritical affection." Incredibly, Bond repeated this again after September 11, 2001. Or maybe Bennett waits for apologies from the "black leaders" who attack ed President Bush after Hurricane Katrina. You have to give it to George Bush for being even more di abolical. Al Sharpton chimed in, "We've gone from fire hoses to levees." New York City Councilman Ch arles Barron said Rangel's statement was " . Ge orge Bush is worse, because he has more power and he's more destructive to our people. A KKK without power is not as bad as a George Bush with power." To so-called "civil rights leaders" offended by Bennett's remarks, consi der this: As between urban crime and Bill Bennett's "inartful" comments, which poses a bigger threat to the health, growth and prosperity of the black community? Cut the pork" The victims of Katrina sacrificed much to the storm. You, their fellow ci tizens, sacrificed time and money to help them recover. It is not too mu ch to ask Congress to sacrifice its pork for one year. jpg Miers is the wrong pick by George Will (Oct 4, 2005) Senators beginning what ought to be a protracted and exacting scrutiny of Harriet Miers should be guided by three rules.