9/29 http://tinyurl.com/dn73w
When confronted with the fact that Pat Tillman was against the war
in Iraq (but for Afghanistan), a fan of Noam Chomsky, and a Kerry
supporter, Hannity and Coulter just ... deny it can be true.
\_ Was he a Kerry support when Kerry voted for the war or when he
was against it?
\_ probably he became a Kerry supporter when he saw how dumb Dubya
was, and Kerry's competitors for the DNC nomination started
dropping out in March.
\_ Didn't Dubya do better in college than Kerry?
\_ Didn't Dubya lose the entire city of New Orleans?
\_ Yup, but his brain didn't improve much after that
\_ Didn't Dubya lose Osama bin Laden?
\_ Yup, but his brain didn't improve much after that, no
matter how much coke and alcohol he consumed.
\_ Oh yeah, Media Matters. A nice unbiased source. I heard that Pat
and his mom didn't agree about the war. So unless his mom's account
is corroborated, I wouldn't buy it either.
\_ See the video. See the http://sfgate.com article quoting multiple
sources indicating what Tillman thought.
\_ Are you channeling O'Reilley, he said "Why don't you just ask
Castro!" when Krugman referenced media matters. And yes this
info comes from multiple sources, I just thought media matters
summarized it well.
\_ Another win for the reality based community.
\_ This is the same Pat Tillman that the left called an idiot and
published a lot of other nastiness about, right? So now he's a
hero? What would Cindy say about Pat? She says this country isn't
worth fighting for. Pat, our new hero, said it was. This is
"nuance"? And no, I don't actually care either way. I just find
the whole "we'll believe both sides of anything twice before
breakfast as long as it might have political agenda value" amusing.
\_ Links, o contentious one. The Left showed you theirs, now show
yours.
\_ Links to what? A Cindy quote? Sheesh, it's everywhere. The
sky is still blue, don't make me find a link for that, too.
Anyway, like I said, I find it amusing. I don't actually
care. This is not the sort of thing elections are won and
lost on. No one cares what Coulter or Hannity say. They're
media figures, not policy makers. And for certain, *no one*
with a pulse cares what the freepers have to say. For kicks,
I went to read the freeper link. Still the same type of
one-liner no-content types as years ago, the last time I read
it. OTOH, no one cares what Cindy says either. It's all a
big circus on both sides missing the truly important issues.
What color should we paint the shed?
\_ Yes the left was bashing Tillman for being a mindless
patriotic drone -- but that was the EXTREME left -- just
like the EXTREME right bashes Kerry and Cleland for their
service to this country. I always admired Pat Tillman
for leaving behind a fortune and fighting for this country,
I didn't know what his political views were back then but
I'm happy to have found out they are very close to mine.
\_ So, I'm with you on this, but I have to say that
Coulter and the Freepers are EXTREME right. Or,
more to the point, they're idiots. -!pp
\_ Well yeah, but they get a heck of a lot more media
coverage than any extreme left wing idiot I know.
\_ Really? I always thought Micheal Moore,
and Tom Tommrow were doing ok. Sheehan too.
\_ Never heard of Tom Tommrow, but perhaps you
substitute Al Franken. -moderate
\_ When was the last time either one was
on the cover of Time magazine?
\_ Ted Rall started the Pat Tillman is a stupid moron thing.
http://asmallvictory.net/archives/tr040503.html
Yes, I e-mailed him the http://sfgate.com article a few days ago.
\_ Ah, thanks. I was wondering how anyone could forget that
glob of stomach churning bile.
\_ While Ted Rall is a moron, remember these were in response
the offical story, one that was quite a bit different from
the truth.
\_ I don't really see why that makes the comic less vile.
\_ Comics can be vile, but still be well-drawn and funny.
Ted Rall is neither well-drawn nor funny. |