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2005/9/28-10/3 [Politics/Domestic/911, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39913 Activity:nil
9/28    http://csua.org/u/djq (andrewsullivan.com)
        Re CPT Fishback
        "[Rumsfeld said:] 'Either break him or destroy him, and do it quickly.'
        ... The scapegoating of retarded underlings like Lynndie England is an
        attempt to deflect real responsibility for the new pro-torture policies
        that go all the way to the White House."
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revelation that US soldiers were posting pictures of mutilated corpses of dead Iraqis on a website in order to get free access to amateur porn? It was clearl y a violation of the Geneva Conventions, and a horrifying insight into t he culture that has been allowed to percolate in the military in Iraq. A fter this blog and others raised the alarm, there was an investigation. It's done now: The Army Criminal Investigation Command in Iraq conducted the preliminar y inquiry within the past week but closed it after concluding no felony crime had been committed and failing to determine whether US soldier s were responsible for the photos and whether they showed actual war de ad, Army officials said. Joe Curtin, an Army spokesman at the Pentagon, said there currently was no formal investigation into the matter. Decisions like this send a further message to the troops. A nd we wonder why the allegations of abuse and torture keep coming. If th e military spent an ounce of the effort they are now deploying to break the will of Ian Fishback on ridding the military of men who violate the Geneva Conventions, we might get somewhere. But just remember who ultima tely sets the tone for the military: the Pentagon and the White House. Unbeknownst to the volunteers, the test s ubject was part of the experiment, and would scream out in mock pain whe never the voltage was applied. Many of the volunteers were in anguish wh en applying the voltage, but the calm and authoritative demeanor of the test director influenced them to do things they otherwise would find unc onscionable. Many of us teach this test case to our aspiring officers to illustrate ho w susceptible we all are to the influence of others, especially when tho se others are respected and influential members in our national security and military command structures. This is why senior leadership must giv e clear and unambiguous direction and intent; a break in procedure will permeate the command structure if allowed to go unchecked, especially wh en it appears to be condoned by leadership. This is why we also study in dividuals such as Warrant Officer Hugh Thompson of My Lai, a man who pos sessed the moral courage to stand up to his fellow soldiers in order to protect the innocent, and who later experienced the approbation that Fis hback is receiving today. We in the military do teach the ethics, moral responsibility and personal accountability that by all reporting appear to be demonstrated by Capta in Fishback today. Obviously teaching these things is far easier than de monstrating them, which makes this instance all the more noteworthy sinc e the intervening support and command structures appear to be aligned ag ainst him. We should recognize the great physical and moral courage it t akes for Fishback to speak out, as well as the apparent failures of thos e higher up to act with similar moral courage." So are his two fello w soldiers who backed him up, although they were too scared to give thei r names. I've been reliably informed that the military brass have now un covered their identity and are applying the same pressure to them as the y are to Fishback. EMAIL OF THE DAY II: "Please keep using your voice to defend Ian Fishback . I didn't know him personally at West Point, but I can tell you this: h e had a reputation as being a very up-right, by-the-book kind of guy. If someone like him is saying torture happened, then it did. A West Pointe r like Fishback would rather die than dishonor himself by lying. Besides , what possible motive could he have for doing what he is doing other th an the desire to right a wrong? 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Friday, October 29, 2004 SO HE'S ALIVE II: Some of you have had the opposite reaction to the OBL t ape. Here's a typical email: Kerry's sharpest critique is that we have not done enough kill or captur e bin Laden. Seeing bin Laden alive and well reinforces--to me at least --that the president has not done his job. Because I had no reason to b elieve that bin Laden was dead before this video, seeing him now doesn' t make me more afraid of him or of an attack. And rather that making me recall good feelings about the president in the immediate aftermath of 9/11, I am filled with renewed emotions of disappointment in him. Reme mber: Bush is the one that said he wanted bin Laden "dead or alive" and that he "can ran but not hide." Although I suspect it will help Bush a lot, my hope is that it will have no effect either way. I don't w ant that murderous bastard to have any say on what this democracy decide s I just hope that whoever gets elected next Tuesday manages to find an d kill him. 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Ricardo S Sanchez, the highe st ranking Army officer in Iraq in October 2003 but were told that the United States did not have enough troops to seal off the facility, whic h included more than 60 bunkers packed with munitions. "We were outraged," said Wes Hare, city manager of La Grande, who was wo rking in Iraq as part of a rebuilding program. A colleague who also vis ited the depot, Jerry Kuhaida, said it appeared that the explosives at the Ukhaider Ammunition Storage Area had found their way to insurgents targeting US forces. "There's no question in my mind that the stuff in Ukhaider was used by t errorists," said Kuhaida. But i f you didn't believe there would be an insurgency, why would you guard t hese dumps? There weren't enough troops to maintain order, let alone sec ure hundreds of sites. You can see the logic for the administration's po sition. 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