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2005/9/27-29 [Consumer/Camera, Computer/SW/OS/OsX] UID:39901 Activity:nil
9/27    Invisibility cloak:
        http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/1860
        \_ fake!  it looks nothing like a +1 cloak!  :-)
        \_ what's the big deal? he's projecting an image of the background
           on a retro-reflective mac. it only makes you invisible in a very
           controlled environment.
        \_ A better link:
           http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/oc.html
        \_ Yeah, that's been on slashdot.  It's a complete hoax.  There is
           nothing in any of the videos that can't be done with a green screen.
           -emarkp
           \_ is the following a hoax as well?
              projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/images/mirror.mpg
              \_ Of course it is.  The front of the "mirror" is a green screen
                 over a stationary background which was filmed as a still and
                 placed on the green bit in post production (or possibly live).
                 Note in this movie:
    http://projects.star.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/projects/MEDIA/xv/images/oc-wired.mpg
                 there are discontinuities in the video screen as the person
                 moves around, which can't be explained by the claimed
                 technology, but is entirely consistent with a pre-recorded
                 loop that was imperfectly put in the video sequence. -emarkp
                 \_ emarkp, I understand that you believe that you have an
                    alternate explanation for how they achieved the effect,
                    but your ability to posit such an explanation does not
                    necessarily make it a hoax; please provide an in-depth
                    examination of the supposed discontinuities, preferably
                    on a website so the laypeople can judge for themselves.
                    \_ I /do/ have an alternate explanation which doesn't
                       multiply entities.  You know, Occam's razor?  Nothing in
                       the videos is even hard with a green screen.  Why accept
                       the extremely difficult claim of an invisibility cloak
                       then?  I'm not willing to invest the time to smash this
                       right now, because it /should be obvious/.  Look at the
                       "wired" video at the 9 second mark (the guy wearing
                       the hood) and as he moves side to side watch the people
                       in the video on the screen behind him.  If you don't see
                       the discontinuities, you're blind. -emarkp
                       \_ I'm blind! That explains everything! ...except why
                          I can see that you're shouting louder rather than
                          contributing constructively. Perhaps I'll see your
                          explanation on http://snopes.com.
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Brian Berris Contributing Writer, RealTechNews Invisibility Cloak No need for dressing up in all black when trying to be sneaky. Instead wr ap yourself in an invisibility cloak and prance around like fool without being noticed Well perhaps it hasnt come that far, but the invisibil y cloak has now become a reality. The material itself is like a large f lexible display and a camera takes what it sees on the opposite side and displays it on the back making it see through. This stuff is NOT a new high-tech electronic cloth with millions of lightsource points that duplicate the missing portion of the blocked view along with being able to correctly re-correlate the viewpoint differences and not show the -wrong- angle. This cloth these guys appear to be pushing is -old- news. At one time, I worked for the US Coast Guard on a black-hull boat. We were part of the construction fleet and we were responsible for building and maintaining all types of Aids to Navigation for ships and boats on the US waterways. Those nav aids are very important, they help keep heavily loaded deep-draft boats out of the shallow water and theyre sort of like traffic lane control signs. At night, beyond 500 yards, they are for the most part, invisible. Unless they have the retro reflective tape applied to them. This tape is made by 3M and is called retro-reflective because it -reflects- almost 80% of the light thats shined on it, no matter from how far away that light comes or what direction it comes from. White is what they use for projector screens in movie houses and is what is recommended for use with modern day video projectors, the kind used with computers) The tape is kinda thick, approx 20-30 mils and is made of three or more layers consisting of at least a base layer, a layer of spray on microscopic glass beads (the actual reflector), a sealer layer and a transparent color top layer. The tape idea is at least 30-40 years old, and has been in use by the Coast Guard since they discovered how well it reflects spotlight beams from towboats on the Ohio and Missippi rivers. And yes, those boats DO have incredibly bright spotlights, you need them when youre pushing half a million tons of whatever upstream in the dark at three in the morning. What you are looking at in the picture above is a PROJECTED image. Projected onto someone wearing a cape or coat made of this cloth. Meaning the projector is sharing the same field of view with the camera that took the picture that you are seeing. 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You can select camouflaged object to cover with retroreflector. Moreove r, to project a stereoscopic image, the observer looks at the masking ob ject more transparent. In the case of a real scene, a photograph of the scene is taken from the operatorfs viewpoint , and this photograph is projected to exactly the same place as the orig inal. HMP-based optical camouflage to a real scene requires image-based rendering techniques. If you want to know the mechanism of this optical camouflage demonstratio n, please see the following brochure: * M Inami, D Sekiguchi, S Tachi, Le manteau transparent!
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