9/26 So, Katrina, Rita, what is the verdict? I remember someone here
on soda saying that federal government shouldn't get involved in
hurrican relief. I would like to hear your opinion on Bush's
vast mobilization of federal resources *BEFORE* the Rita hits.
Do you still believe that federal government should be hands off and
let the state and local officials do their thing? and why.
\_ I'm tired of this thread. Why don't you email jblack directly?
And why are you obsessed with proving that you're right and
they're wrong? A real conservative sticks to his guns and
never flip-flops his position. In another word, a real
conservative never admits anything wrong.
\_ Apparently niether do real liberals. That's why we call then
"far"-left/right. (Or extremists)
"far"-left/right. (Or extremists) -jrleek
\_ Hello, Mr. Conservative.
\_ No, a real liberal flip-flops (changes his position) all
the time to gain the most advantageous views.
\_ A real liberal is reasonable to changing his mind
in the face of new evidence, but I don't call that
flip-flopping, I call it intelligence.
\_ Go Kerry the Master of Flip-Flopping!
\_ but every time a new opinion appears?
\_ Are you stupid or just stupid?
\_ Intelligent flipping.
\_ Intelligent flipping is a baseless myth. It's really
just the evolution of an opinion.
\_ I am still waiting for answers. I am not trying to embarass
anyone, just curious on what is other point of view. -op
\_ Complete government fuck-up all around, brought out the worst in
"normal" people, those responsible should be sacked, shot and
shot again, is that what you were looking for? -John
\_ Rita and Katrina prove one thing: the government is inefficient.
Throwing more money at the government is not going to solve
the problem. Look at the late 1800s. The fire department was
privatized and they only had to put out fires for paying
customers, and the end result was less idling firemen playing
cards and more PROFITS. Let me ask you this. Today, except for
the USPS which is not even funded by tax payers, which government
agencies profit?
\_ ...and lots of burned down cities, don't forget that.
\_ Incomplete argument--burned down cities = economic output
dip = lower economic performance = impact on pocketbook of
those hiring private fire depts. = no more $$ to hire private
fire depts. = their houses burned down. So does this mean
that funding a fire department is an example of Keynesian
economics? -John
\_ What happens while your neighbor's house is on fire and
they aren't home? Do you call your fire department (and
foot the bill)? Call around to try to determine which
fire department your neighbor has? What happens when a
fire spreads from one building to another, such as from
a "paid up" warehouse to the apartment complex full of
poor families (likely not all paid up)? -meyers
\_ I think you sort of missed my point, meyers. -John
\_ (tongue in cheek since this is all silly) Presumably the
apartment complex or home owner's association would
charge a fire-fighting fee so you and your neighbor
would be on the same fire figther's network. Then of
course there is the problem of who to call when you
see the apartment or house in the next neighborhood
on fire so we should really all band together to cut
costs and have a city wide fighter fighting company and
just charge a fee for it to reduce costs but of course
then another city upwind might be on fire and your
city directly borders theirs so really we should just
have a county wide fire department to better spread the
cost and since we all need it equally, hey let's just
have a 1/2 cent tax on all sales to fund it since an
individual share is to hard to calculate.
\_ Sounds like a tax to me. -John |
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