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| 2005/9/21-23 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:39805 Activity:moderate |
9/21 Hurricanes? Cut taxes on the rich!
http://tinyurl.com/df76d (news.yahoo.com)
\_ You could cut/raise taxes on the poor, but what would it
matter? Any meaningful change in tax rates/revenues comes at
the expense of/for the benefit of the rich. It's redundant to
mention it.
\_ Nobody would mention it when it's at the exepnse of the rich.
\_ and nobody would mention it when it's banckrolled by China.
\_ People seem to think that the Republicans are cutting taxes to
do X Y and Z when it's just because they like cutting taxes.
War in Iraq? Cut taxes. Record deficit? Cut taxes. Hurricanes?
cut taxes. Energy crisis? Cut taxes!
\_ Republicans are cutting taxes because they get most of their
campaign contribution via the riches and corporations.
\_ Maybe you youngins don't remember this but Reaganomics was the
reason why the US economy boomed and kicked ass. The money from
the rich are funneled down to the poor and everyone benefits.
You guys want to go back to the fiscal irresponsible
European, Clinton, Democrat, and whatever socialist programs
that prove to be inefficient? Be my guest.
\_ are you serious about this? How about FDR's New Deal?
\_ Yeah SS worked out real well.
\_ Do you like your little dream world?
\_ SS is working so well now is because your
"reaganomics" used the SS surplus on starwars, my friend
\_ 70 years and counting of no more retirees in the
poor house or forced to eat cat food. I think it has
been the best anti-poverty program ever.
\_ are you talking about the fiscally irresponsible clinton
programs that resulted in a budget surplus? fuckwit.
\_ The surplus was due to George H Bush's tax raise but for some
odd reason you Democrats keep taking credit for it. I can't
believe you guys are so blind that you actually praise
the duplicitious cock sucker even as Clintongate unfolds.
the duplicitious cock suckee even as Clintongate unfolds.
You say bad things about Bush yet you totally ignored
I'm believe you guys are so blind that you actually praise
with ------> the duplicitious cock suckee even as Clintongate unfolds.
stupid You say bad things about Bush yet you totally ignored
Whitewater, Cattlegate, Nannygate, Helicoptergate, Travelgate,
Gennifer Flowersgate, Vince Fostergate, Buddhist Templegate,
Chinese commiegate, Lewinskygate, Willeygate, Pardongate,
and what not. Clinton has been nothing but a great
embarrasement to our nation.
\_ That's cock suckee, not cock sucker. Get it right!
\_ I can't tell if this is a troll or is coming out
from a real believer. What do you guys think?
\_ It's distractingate thatgate you usegate 'gate' on
every othergate wordgate. It kind of undergatemines any
hopegate of taking yougate seriouslygate. What, you some
kind of politicalgate smurf?
\_ Funny. His approval rating was never as low as Bush's..
Also funny, the rest of the world liked us under Clinton.
And, really, pardongate? Do you know who Bush I pardoned?
Your side persecuted Clinton for inconsequential mini-
scandals, mostly of your own making. Bush is running us
into the fucking ground and all you do is wonder to your
navel how clinton made him do it.
p.s. Since you always seem to need the reminder, Clinton
ain't presnit no more.
p.p.s Are you so threatened in your philosophy that you
feel you must nuke other people's statements?
\_ I can see it now. It's 2014, and Jeb Bush is in his
second term. The U.S. has just defaulted on it's
loans, the dollar is worth less than the paper it's
printed on, people are walking down ruined highways
in mass exodous from unsustainable suburban
developements, a couple major cities have been taken out
by nukes Bush didn't want to help the Russians secure,
and jblack will be posting to the motd about how it's
STILL Clinton's fault.
\_ Stop the denial. It IS Clinton's fault. !jblack
\_ Not to mention jblackgate.
\_ Thanks a lot for making me pine for the days when scandals
were just silly little embarassments unlike Bush's which
result in the deaths of thousands ... Vince Fostergate?
Someone commits suicide and it's a scandal? Or do you
believe like Rush Limbaugh if anyone dies within a radius
of 100 miles of either Clinton it's automatically their
fault unless proven otherwise?
\_ Yes, our standing in the world community was greatly
raised when we exchanged Clinton for Bush. We used to
\_ BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAhahahahaha hehheh heh. *ahem*
Thanks, man, I needed that.
get no respect at all.
\_ Standing in the world community? Who cares what
a bunch of 2 bit cheese eating surrender monkeys
think? If we weren't around bombing the heathens
and keeping the peace the "world community" would
be praying to allah to keep their pansy asses from
getting burned at the stake.
\_ Troopergate? Didn't those guys admit they made the
whole thing up for $30k each from Scaife? It is pretty
funny and kind of sad that all you have left to keep
you going is hate for a guy who has been retired and
out of office for 5 years now. Let it go, man.
\_ Most of the Clinton scandals were either lies or
small potatoes dressed up by rightwing haters who
couldn't stand that Clinton was taking a lot of
conservative ideas (the good ones) and implementing
them properly. |
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| tinyurl.com/df76d -> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050921/ap_on_go_co/hurricanes_washington_hk4 AP Tax Breaks for Katrina May Aid Rich More By MARY DALRYMPLE, Associated Press Writer Wed Sep 21, 1:36 PM ET WASHINGTON - House and Senate tax writers agreed Tuesday on a package of tax breaks designed to help Hurricane Katrina victims recoup their losse s and access needed cash. Click Here The Congressional Research Service, an office that provides lawmakers wit h nonpartisan legislative analysis, said some of those tax breaks could do more for higher income survivors than for the neediest. The tax bill is one avenue lawmakers have pursued in sending relief to hu rricane evacuees. Since Katrina hit the Gulf Coast in late August, Congr ess has approved $62 billion in emergency spending and promised more. House and Senate lawmakers debated Tuesday whether some costs for cleanin g up after Katrina should be defrayed by cutting fat elsewhere in the fe deral budget. President Bush made his fifth visit to the devastated Gulf Coast and received a briefing about Hurricane Rita, which lashed the Florida Keys and caused a flurry of storm preparations through the Gulf Coast to Texas. The Army Corps o f Engineers raced to patch New Orleans' damaged levee system ahead of th e storm. Federal Emergency Management Agency Director R David Paulison told reporters that Rita was expected to reach Category 3 or 4 levels. FEMA had aircraft and buses available to evacua te residents from areas the hurricane might hit. "I strongly urge Gulf Coast residents to pay attention" to the storm, Pau lison said. House and Senate tax writers, meanwhile, agreed on a tax bill that helps Katrina victims access their savings by waiving penalties imposed for ta pping retirement savings accounts before retirement. Other provisions le t taxpayers write off more of their destroyed property and erase taxes r egularly imposed when a debt, like a mortgage, is forgiven. The bill, which lawmakers expect to pass quickly, will include a two-year tax credit for businesses hiring people within the disaster area. Those who take in evacuees, other than family members, would be eligible for a $500 personal exemption. The Congressional Research Service report said some elements of the tax a ssistance would do more for wealthier taxpayers because many lower incom e individuals and families pay little tax. Lower income survivors are al so less likely to have retirement accounts like 401s and IRAs. However, the same tax measure includes assistance specifically for lower- income families that would help the working poor hang onto their income tax credits, which can be disrupted by unemployment or family separation . Lawmakers moved ahead with the tax assistance while debating spending res traints. Senior Republicans, even those supporting tight reins on spendi ng, said it could prove difficult to find budget cuts with the majority support necessary to succeed. "As many members of the Senate as there are, there's that many different views of how you do offsets," said Senate Budget Committee Chairman Judd Gregg, R-NH "That's why it will be hard to do." One example is the upcoming rollout of the Medicare prescription drug ben efit, passed two years ago. Some conservative lawmakers have suggested d elaying it to buffer Katrina's effect on the budget. White House budget director Joshua Bolten briefed senators on Katrina res ponse efforts. He renewed the office's commitment to a plan by congressi onal Republicans to curb growth in federal benefit programs like Medicai d by $35 billion. House Democratic leaders called for an independent panel to oversee the a warding of Katrina contracts for hurricane cleanup, citing a need to ens ure taxpayer dollars are doled out fairly. The House, meanwhile, voted 400-0 to give the Labor Department greater le eway in running a jobs program for people affected by national emergenci es. The bill would expand the National Emergency Grant program, under which t he Labor Department has already awarded $191 million to support 40,000 t emporary jobs for those displaced by Katrina. The program provides up to six months of job training or work related to assisting victims. The House also approved, by voice vote, legislation to extend for two yea rs a program through which the secretary of education can waive student loan payments for reservists or National Guard members called to active duty. Pentagon blocking September 11 inquiry: senator Reuters R David Paulison, acting director of the Federal Emergency Managemen t Agency, speaks about Hurricane Rita, Tuesday, Sept. The informati on contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewr itten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associ ated Press. |
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