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2005/9/20-22 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:39778 Activity:nil
9/20    Able Danger, if true, is the biggest story of the year.
        Pentagon Blocks Testimony at Senate Hearing on Terrorist
        More collective ass covering by Washington elite....
        http://csua.org/u/dg7                           -jblack
        \_ OF COURSE!  HOW COULD I HAVE BEEN SO BLIND!  CLINTON PROBABLY WAS
           CRANK CALLING NORAD ON SEP 11 AS WELL!!1
        \_ I agree insofar as "why bury it if it's that harmless/irrelevant/
           in the past".  Weird.  Anyway, Karl Rove (a political strategist)
           supervising Katrina reconstruction is the biggest story of the
           year. -moderate/liberal
        \_ Yeah, Katrina is SO yesterday. But Able Danger will pale next to
           rumors that that Hillary likes the occasional dirty Sanchez.
        \_ Why didn't Bush do anything about the Able Danger information?
           I have actually decided that the 9/11 Commission was probably
           mostly a coverup. The Democrats covered Clinton's ass and the
           GOP covered Bush's and neither side wanted to rock the boat. -ausman
           \_ Did you read the 911 comission report?  I think there was the
              potential for plenty of boat rocking in the report, but that
              few people read it, and most people don't have the attention
              span to get worked up about it. I did read the 911CR, and I
              certainly felt there was plenty of blame placed on both Bush
              and Clinton there--people really just don't care or notice.
                \_ If it's a flash of a tit, people notice!
              \_ I read it selectively. Chapter 8 "The System Was
                 Bliking Red" is pretty damning, I have to admit. -ausman
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The announcement came a day before the officers and intelligence analysts had been scheduled to testify about the program, known as Able Danger, at a hearing of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Bryan Whitman, a Defense Department spokesman, said in a statement that o pen testimony about the program "would not be appropriate - we have expr essed our security concerns and believe it is simply not possible to dis cuss Able Danger in any great detail in an open public forum." He offere d no other detail on the Pentagon's reasoning in blocking the testimony. Pennsylvania Republican who is chairman of the committee, said he was surprised by the Pentagon's decision because "so much of this has already been in the public domain, and I think that the American people need to know what happened here." Mr Specter said in a telephone interview that he intended to go ahead wi th the hearing on Wednesday and hoped that it "may produce a change of h eart by the Department of Defense in answering some very basic questions ." Two military officers - an active-duty Navy captain and a reservist Army lieutenant colonel - have said publicly in recent weeks that they were i nvolved with Able Danger and that the program's analysts identified Moha med Atta, the Egyptian-born ringleader of the Sept. They said they attempted to share the information with the Federal Bureau of Investigation in the summer of 2000, more than a year before the ter rorist attacks, but were blocked by Defense Department lawyers. FBI o fficials, who answer to the jurisdiction of Senator Specter's committee, have confirmed that Defense Department abruptly canceled meetings in 20 00 between the bureau's Washington field office and representatives of t he Able Danger team. The Pentagon has said that it has interviewed three other people who were involved with Able Danger and who said that they, too, recalled the ide ntification of Mr Atta as a terrorist suspect. But Defense Department i nvestigators said they could find no documentary evidence to back up the assertion; they acknowledged that much of the information might have be en routinely destroyed. Mr Specter said his staff had talked to all five of the potential witnes ses and found that "credibility has been established" for all of them. "There are quite a few credible people who are prepared to testify that M ohamed Atta was identified long before 9/11," he said. Mr Whitman, the Pentagon spokesman, said that in place of members of the Able Danger team, a senior defense official would be sent to the Wednes day hearing to discuss "what the law and policies are on domestic survei llance and to provide some insights about information-sharing between ag encies."