9/19    sodans in their 30s+, do you have sleeping problems? What do you
        do about them? When I was at Berkeley I can't wake up in the
        morning, I could go to sleep anytime and sleep very well. Now
        my brain is awake at 7am yet my body is tired. Every once in a
        while I will sleep well, but often times it's just OK. Anyone
        else have similar issues? What do you do about them?
        \_ http://csua.com/?entry=37713
           You the same guy who posted the above?
        \_ I have friends who found Ambien very helpful. -dans
        \_ I went to stanford sleep clinic. I ended up having sleep apnea.
           But if you aren't having mental issues like cloudy thinking
           then sounds like you are just out of shape. Go excercise 4 days
           a week (cardio) and take vitamins.
           \- I have evolved beyond sleep.
              \_ What, no more lamppost collisions?
           \_ when i started working out 4x a week and doing 20+ miles of
              running coupla years ago, my insomnia actually got worse.
        \_ If you're overweight, lose weight.  Eat healthy.
           Exercise every day.  Don't eat after 8pm.
           Work hard and efficiently.  Post to motd as little as possible.
           Have a social life.  Talk to new people, see new places.
           If you do all the above, you should have no problems.
        \_ Exercise, a few glasses of wine with dinner and daily sex
           work for me. If I don't get all of these, I sleep poorly.
                \_ We don't all have access to yermom.
                   \_ Actually, I use my hand on the nights my wife is tired.
                      \_ "tired" i.e, all of them.
           \_ A few glasses of wine? You get buzzed every day?
              \_ Two or three yeah. Two is optimal for longevity, three
                 is probably pushing it a bit. Are you white? My European
                 enzymes have no problem with two or three drinks spaced
                 out over 4 hours.
                 \_ I was gonna say. The guy gets a buzz from 3 glasses of
                    wine over 4 hours? He's a lightweight.
                    \_ I am relatively "light weight". But I was thinking
                       more like 4 glasses over 2 hours from the desc.
                       Actually 2 in a row is enough to give me that
                       alcohol mood shift, I dunno if that can be called a
                       buzz.
        \_ Stop waking up when your wife is trying to smother you.
        \_ Cut off all caffeine.  Remember that it has a half-life and takes
           quite a while to metabolize.
           \_ 6 hour 1/2 life to be exact..
        \_ You clearly need a Sleep Number (TM) bed! (j/k those are dumb)
        \_ i do have problem sleep, and I don't have access to sleep clinic.
           There are couple things I've done that helps me:
           * no caffine after 4:30pm.  people say caffine last up to
             6 hours in the body.  I guess for my case, it last a lot longer
             than that.
           * physical exercise.  jogging couple miles helps. sex also helps.
             do both if you can.
                \_ I got arrested the last time I had sex while jogging.
           * don't stuff yourself with food 2 hours prior to sleep.
           * no TV 1 hours prior to sleep
           * no computer/net surfing 1 hour prior to sleep.  I found TV
             and computer usage are some sort of stimulant.  Read a book
             instead.
           * hate to say this, but try to keep a regular sleep pattern.
             i.e. always sleep at the same time of the day.  allow yourself
             wake up naturally in the morning if you have enough.  Do this for
             about 2 weeks, you will be fine.
           \_ Caffeine is metabalized proportional to the amount in your
              system.  For an adult male the half life is about 6 hours.  So it
              isn't "out of your system" in 6 hours--only half of it is.  In a
              day over 90% is gone.  But that time changes based on body
              weight, chemistry, etc.
           \_ Thank you. no computer/net/tv 1 hour before sleep would
              be difficult to do, but I am gonna give it a try.
                \_ Back to masturbating to the Victoria's Secret catalog