9/10 How does a university with Cal's academics manage to recruit as well
as it has for Tedford the past couple years?
\_ Academics and athletics are not mutually exclusive; Michigan
has had a consistently successful football program, and sells
out their 100K seat stadium for every game. -tom
\_ U. Mich? I've found that U. Mich people just like to talk
about themselves a lot and how U. Mich is the greatest
thing since sliced bread. You sure their academic
reputation isn't just a lack of modesty?
\_ You might want to read about 'statistics' and 'standardized
tests'. Your post implies an egregious lack of understanding
tests'. Your post implies a flagrant lack of understanding
about academic reputation and how it's derived.
\_ I've found these "statistics" and "standardized tests"
to be pure BS. The USNews reports use things like SAT
scores, GPA, alumni donation, and things that don't
really mean much to rank colleges. But results speak
for themselves. In the place where I work, the ones
that come from no-name colleges produce some of the
best results I've seen whle those from these top-notch
colleges are usually just full of themselves and can't
do jack shit. UMich people, for some reason, seem to
be the worst offenders.
\_ Right, studies which actually have quantitative metrics
are pure BS, while one person's subjective experience
is truth.
Oh and here's another hint; top universities do not
exist to churn out good workers. -tom
\_ And you think these objective "quantitative
metrics" are a good indicator of academic
rigor? I really don't care how well any student
did on their ACT/SAT, what their HS GPA is,
or how much alumni give to that school. Look
at Stanford. These kids work their ass of in HS
to get into that school. Their alumni donates
money like there''s not tomorrow. But they
also just slack off once the get in and are
guaranteed a 4.0 GPA. I haven't found many
Stanford students to be that stellar.
\_ I'm guessing your argument is that they exist
to promote intellectual progress in the form of
research and scholarly debate? Sure, for the
best and the brightest. A good professor might
not be a good worker bee. On the other hand, any
good professor is going to have to have a lot of
skills which make them good 'workers'. They just
fit into higher level jobs. I don't think you
can make a case that a university is a good one
if all of the people it turns out are poor
workers. It may not be the objective to turn out
good workers, but it seems to happen anyway.
\_ I'm guessing you're a moron. Actually, no,
I'm not guessing. -tom
\_ Way to defend your point - with an
ad-hominem and no facts.
\_ Sorry, the idea that schools should be
measured based on what some anonymous coward
perceives as the productivity of some
people he's worked with is far too
ridiculous to respond to. -tom
\_ I'm not the original poster and I
*was* curious what your opinion is
on this topic but I don't care now.
\_ Funny how tom can manage to piss
off people who might sympathize
with him.
\_ I don't need morons to sympathize
with me. -tom
\_ Yeah, he's already got
himself, and he's the
biggest moron around!
-jrleek
\_ According to USNews, Cal=#20, UCLA=#24, UMich=#25
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