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2005/9/10-12 [Academia/Berkeley/CSUA/Troll/Jblack, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39613 Activity:nil Cat_by:auto
9/9     http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/4218536.stm
        Read the last comment by Paul, Atlanta, USA. Hey Justin Black,
        is that your best friend from high school?
        \_ Do you mean Zachery?
           \_ They took Paul out. BBC censors!!! It was written in the
              purest jblack style, with that "It's the poor people's fault
              because they're stupid and lazy and they deserve to die" tone.
              That, followed by something to the effect of "Go Bush!"
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Gerald Coleman stands on his porch with flood water surrounding the house in New Orleans What will be the lasting effects of Hurricane Katrina? Search and rescue teams in New Orleans say thousands of survivors of Hurr icane Katrina still haven't left their homes. The city's Police Chief Eddie Compass told reporters that a "sensitive" a pproach would be used to remove people. As many as 10,000 people had refused to leave the flooded city despite th e mayor's compulsory evacuation order. President George W Bush has declared Friday 16 September a national day o f prayer and remembrance for the victims. Has the disaste r affected the way other countries view the US? The following comments reflect the balance of views received: The government might have failed but the people of America didn't John, Detroit, USA The government might have failed but the people of America didn't. We are as proud of our country as anyone in the world is. Our government is no t what (we the people) want it to be. You can bet your life it has chang ed the way we look at our government and the way it does business for it self and not for the welfare of its people. John, Detroit, USA It's alright saying Bush was slow to respond to help in New Orleans, but can you imagine us in England doing any better? David Parrott , Derby, England It took the EU 24 hours to get supplies to New Orleans once Bush had form ally requested it. How come it took a week for him to request outside he lp? And more importantly how could they respond in 24 hours while it too k a week for US teams to get to work? DW, Chicago, USA Bush leading the inquiry, that's going to be a fair and balanced exercise then. Dave Thawley, Blackpool In the USA it is widely believed that everything here is better than anyw here else, and there is little the rest of the world has to say of any r elevance. At a dreadful price, Katrina has brought some humility and per haps some soul-searching about embracing sustainable energy policies. Nic Oatridge, New York, USA Not even tragedy can beget sympathy when it comes to America Amy Watts, Austin, TX USA Would it really matter if the US changed? From the ignorant comments post ed here, it's obvious that we're damned no matter what course we take. N ot even tragedy can beget sympathy when it comes to America. But at leas t our suffering has allowed the rest of the world to feel better about i tself. No matter how much griping we do we can't change what happened. The question I ask m yself and I feel every human alive today should ask. Scott Moody, Tupelo, USA I think that the US has not changed but I am not saying that in a bad way . We are very concerned and worried about the people in the areas hit an d worried about the economy being able to take all the pressures that th is disaster unleashed. Dana, United States The devastation caused by Katrina has wrought havoc on the USA that may w ell ask some searching questions of America's economic and political sit uation for a long time. But that is not to say that Europe and Britain w ould be any better placed to handle a similar catastrophe. And to even t hink of suggesting that the rest of the world has no compassion for Amer ica right now is outright foolishness. People in the UK and I'm sure els ewhere are horrified at the extent of the damage and loss, and our sympa thies are with those affected and America as a whole. Rich, Liverpool, England Katrina's impact on our economy is not fully visible yet. We will learn i n the near future that gasoline must remain at a price that allows our c itizens to commute to work on a day to day basis. Unlike Europe the geog raphical setup of our communities is so spread out that walking to work is impossible. 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