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2005/9/2-3 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:39459 Activity:nil
9/2     The big disconnect on New Orleans --
        The official version; then there's the in-the-trenches version
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/02/katrina.response/index.html
        \_ When the feds are being this fucktarded and stupid, even the MSM
           can see it.
        \_ FEMA head wants to be the next Iraqi Information Minister.
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NEW ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Diverging views of a crumbling New Orlean s emerged Thursday, with statements by some federal officials in contrad iction with grittier, more desperate views from the streets. By late Fri day response to those stranded in the city was more visible. But the conflicting views on Thursday came within hours, sometimes minute s of each of each other, as reflected in CNN's transcripts. The speakers include Michael Brown, chief of the Federal Emergency Management Agency , Homeland Security Director Michael Chertoff, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nag in, evacuee Raymond Cooper, CNN correspondents and others. The children, you shoul d see them, they're all just in tears. Evacuee Raymond Cooper: Sir, you've got about 3,000 people here in this -- in the Convention Center right now. We were told two-and-a-half days ago to make our way to the Superdo me or the Convention Center by our mayor. 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