Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 39286
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2005/8/25-26 [Computer/HW/Drives] UID:39286 Activity:kinda low
8/25    OK, here's a big hardware 'WTF?'.  I'm putting together a new computer
        and it can't detect the drives.  It seems they aren't getting powered.
        I hook both drives into an existing computer with both power and IDE
        cables and they are detected.  On a lark, I hook the drives up to the
        new computer but attatch only the power, not the IDE cables.  I hear
        them both power up.  Trying a different IDE cable, using only one
        drive at a time, and trying the secondary IDE connecter all fail.  It
        seems like by attatching the IDE connector, the drives fail to power
        up.  All this is happening with the old-style 4 pin power connector
        and ATA133 cables.  Any ideas?
        \_ Are the drives new?  What make and model?
           Are you sure the drives aren't powering on when you attach IDE
           and power cable at the same time?  Feel for a vibration.  Sometimes
           you don't hear anything but they're actually on.
           Try putting in a spare hard drive in the new computer and see if
           it works when plugged into IDE.
           \_ While off, I connect both - power on - nothing.
              While off, connect power only - power on - drives spin up.
        \_ Assuming you are using the same cables then try to flip them
           around if they connect both ways. Otherwise, I say your
           motherboard is bad and/or incompatible with the drives you
           are using. I agree with the previous person to check to see
           that they aren't actually on, too. Then it's just a driver
           issue.
           \_ They definitely aren't on.  When I try it without the PATA cable
              i see the DVD LED and hear the hard drive spin up.
        \_ I've had this happen with IDE drives.  It ended up being a problem
           with the master/slave pins.  Try fiddling with the BIOS settings
           for the drive with single drives hooked up as well (powering off
           each time after saving settings.)  It's also possible that you
           have a duff MoBo or PSU.  -John
           \_ Could a bad master/slave setting actually cause a drive to not
              even spin up?
              \_ Yes, this is exactly what happened to me.  I have even had
                 MoBos just not like the particular master/slave order of
                 certain mfgr/geometry disks (so I had to make the slave the
                 master and vice versa.)  It's all weird fucked-up voodoo, but
                 just a suggestion as to what could be causing your problem.
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