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2005/8/22-23 [Transportation/Car/Hybrid] UID:39212 Activity:moderate
8/22    Camry Hybrid will be an I4:
        http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/08/toyota_camry_hy.php
        \_ A V4 would be one of the dumbest engine configuration you
           could think of. It would take the worst of an inline-4 and
           a V6 and put it into one engine.
        \_ A Camry with a 4 cylinder is a slow Camry.
           \_ They should offer it with CVT at least. That'd be cool.
           \_ Not necessarily.  Toyota 0wns hybrid tech.  I bet they can make
              a 4 cyl hybrid that performs as well as the V6 in some aspects.
              (You'll always be able to say "but the V6 does 65 mph -> 85 mph
               better!  Or some such.  In practice, V6 Camrys have great low-end
               torque and only modest high-end, which a hybrid would do a good
               job matching).
        \_ Camry is right. Accord V6 hybrid is a muscle car, which really
           defeats the purpose of hybrids. People who want power, buy
           power cars, and people who want gas saving cars, buy the Prius.
           The Accord Hybrid is a total failure from the marketing
           perspective.
           \_ Hmm. I disagree. I would've never considered a hybrid with
              a hamster motor, but when someone throws a 400 HP V-8 hybrid
              in a sports car or truck I'll be interested. Everyone likes
              to save money on gas if performance is not compromised.
              \_ The gas savings gets eaten by the car cost. And possibly
                 maintenance.
                 \_ Some people get hybrids because of environmental savings,
                    not money savings.
        \_ enlighten me please.  Is there any V-4 engine out there?  I
           thought most of 4-cylinder engine are inline.
           \_ You're right. There isn't and for good reason. A V-4 would
              be like combining two inline-2 engines which, by themselves,
              are unbalanced. Combine two unbalanced engines together
              orthoganally and you'll have quite a bit of vibration.
              It's an extremely inefficient configuration.
              \_Umm...your mistaken, I have a V4 motorcycle engine that works
                just fine.
              \_ maybe they're gonna use a balance shaft to reduce vibration?
                 \_ That's going to be one giant ass balancer shaft. Generally,
                    car makers aim for the engine config with the minimum
                    vibration without the use of a balancer shaft because
                    that degrades the performance of the engine. Inline-4s
                    are the worst (among production car engines) and V-6s
                    aren't that great either. Inline-6 and boxers are self-
                    balanced which is one of the reasons why BMW and Subaru
                    use these engines.
                    \_ My '96 Jeep Cherokee 4.0L has I-6.
        \_ I can't find where the article says the engine is a V instead of an
           I.
           \_ I am a car IDIOT. I know almost NOTHING about cars other than
              the fact that you need to put gas in the gas tank and air in
              the tires. I thought 4 cylinder == v4 b/c the shorthand for #
              of cylinders is was 'v'. Sorry for any confusion. -op
        \_ Yeah, but it has the power of a V1!
           \_ That's Vergeltungswaffe 1 Fi 103 to YOU!
              \_ Fi 103 was the manned version.  I'm not joking--the dude was
                 supposed to bail out.  -John the Nitpicker
                 \_ Fickt nicht mit dem Raketenmensch!
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jpg Those who keep up-to-date on hybrid cars know that th e Honda Accord hybrid (V6, 255 hp) has been getting some backlash for be ing a "muscle" hybrid and providing relatively little environmental bene fits (we will write more about the problem with "muscle" hybrids soon). Camry hybrid won't compete in the horsepower race (not at first, anyway) and will feature a 4-cylinders gasoline engine. A good indication that fuel economy probably is still high on Toyota's list of objectives for t hat car. This is very good news because the Camry is currently the best-selling ca r in the US (and doing well around the world too), and now that the Priu s has made the technology more familiar, we think the public is getting ready to make a compromise and buy a hybrid in the shape of a familiar a nd "safe" car. The Camry hybrid could be a breakthrough for hybrids as f ar as volume is concerned. We would also speculate that Toyota will try to keep the price increase f or the hybrid version as small as possible by offering a trim without th e console LCD screen and other high-tech gadgets present in the Prius an d other upscale hybrids. It should also be noted that the Camry will be redesigned for 2006, so it won't look like the car in the picture above. Read next post :: Comments Post a comment But before you do - please note the following: a) Imagine you are raising your hand in a crowded room to ask a question or make a comment. If you want product info, plea se contact the company directly. If you have a link to som ething, please be sure to post it this way!