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2005/8/13-15 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:39111 Activity:nil
8/13    Bush is planning another war. Better get ready for the
        draft, students. No way is this going to happen with
        an all volunteer military:
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050813/ts_nm/iran_bush_dc
        \_ Same thing Dubya said six months ago.
        \_ And this is new how?  Maybe you should take a closer look at
           what Iran says internally, that's far more interesting.
        \_ Using force does not mean a full-scale invasion. We could just bomb
           their alleged WMD facilities and ballistic missiles.
        \_ Giving it a second thought, I think this is just a scare tactic.
           Any military confrontation with Iran will likely cause the southern
           Iraq where the majority of Iraq's population lives to descend into
           chaos. Al-Sistrani, Al-Sadr and his boys, and the rest of Iraqi Shia
           population are keeping quiet only because they're being brought to
           power with the support of our guns, and not because they enjoy
           seeing the hordes of armed infidels roaming aroud the holiest shia
           cities.
           \_ I honestly do not think so. Bush is not in the habit of making
              threats that he does not intend to back up with action.
        \_ Super War Preview: http://www.exile.ru/2005-January-27/war_nerd.html
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Next (12) Everybody's asking me what'll happen if we attack Iran. To get a quick pr eview, just do what this guy in my eighth-grade class did: put a firecra cker in your mouth, hold it between your front teeth, and light the fuse . So when it blows up in your face, you'll expect them to be impressed. And you'll be surpris ed, just like this guy in junior high was surprised, when all you get is a perforated eardrum and a reputation as the biggest dumbass in the sch ool. Right now, Bush is standing there with a lit match and a big firecracker labeled "Iran" in his mouth. Except it's more like an M-80 or a whole st ick of dynamite than a firecracker. Nobody believes he'll be dumb enough to light it, to actually attack Iran. Khameini, their head Mullah, said last week "America is in no positio n to invade Iran." a war with Iran wou ld mean calling up every National Guard unit we have. Even then, it woul d take years to get them combat-ready. 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