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8/11    Insurgents using dogs to deliver bombs:
        http://tinyurl.com/c2vbq (newsday.com)
        \_ kewl, news magazine cover should have Bomb Sniffing dog
          sniffing bomb carrying dog's butt.
           \_ dogs now have a legitament reason to sniff other dogs ass
        \_ now can we call suicide bombers "dum dogs"?
        \_ I wonder if this means that the suicide bomber recruitment pool
           has gotten sparse.
        \_ I like how this (seemingly) horrifies people _more_ than using
           humans.
           \_ Are you seriously going to claim that a dog's life is not worth
              more than that of a terrorist?
              \_ Oh, you're serious.
              \_ ^terrorist^commie  -tom
                  \_ dumbass
                     \_ The Russians actually tried this out in WWII, but the
                        dogs kept coming back to the hand that fed them (and
                        hanging out under tanks and things.)  -John
                        \_ I also recall from my marine mamals class that
                           this has been tried with dolfins, but once the
                           dolfins see another dolfin blow up, the rest all
                           know better.
                           \_ "Dolphins", and for added hilarity you should
                              look up "bat bombs".  -John
           \_ Because one suicidal bomber can now be non-suicidal and use dogs
              to deliver bombs over and over again.  Plus dogs are smaller and
              run faster, so it's harder to shoot.
           \_ The dogs have no choice. It's like using children. Adult
              bombers made a decision, even if perhaps a suspect one.
              \_ Not if the rumors they're often using retards is true.
                 \_ for the purposes of this discussion, you are a retard,
                    to use the perjorative.
           \_ just shoot any dog with a backpack,easy
              \_ Are you suggesting doggie profiling?  What if he's just
                 on his way to work?
                 \_ Then the army should hire more Korean chefs.  Arf.
                 \_ I don't think it's discrimination to suggest we look a
                    little closer at Afghan Hounds.
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By Borzou Daragahi Times Staff Writer August 10, 2005 BAGHDAD -- These are the dogs of war. At a checkpoint leading to the US-protected Green Zone, Gordy stands se ntry. The affable Belgian Malinois has a nose finely tuned to detect the nitrates, plastic explosives, gunpowder and detonation cords that suici de bombers use to blow up people. On a barren stretch of road in northern Iraq, a dog rigged with explosive s approaches a group of Iraqi police officers. Detonated by remote contr ol, the bomb tears the dog apart but doesn't harm the cops. In a war where the line between civilian and soldier is blurred, even man 's best friend has been caught up in the combat. US forces hail their trained dogs as heroes, but to insurgents, canines provide the means for a more sinister goal. Iraqi police cite the recent use of dogs rigged with explosive devices in Latifiya, just south of Baghdad, in Baqubah in central Iraq and in and around the northern city of Kirkuk. Some Iraqis are horrified by the ethics of dragging the animal world into a human conflict. "How can they use these lovely pets for criminal and murderous acts?" ask ed Rasha Khairir, 25, an employee of a Baghdad stock brokerage. "A poor dog can't refuse what they are doing with him because he can't think and decide." Despite a common prejudice in the Muslim world against dogs, which are co nsidered unclean, even the most virulent clerical opponents of the US presence in Iraq have decried the use of canines as proxies in the war. "Our religion does not permit us to hurt animals, " he said, "neither by using them as explosive devices nor in any other manner." US troops extol the virtues of their canine allies in the war against t he insurgents. "Dogs are vital in Iraqi counterinsurgency efforts," said Staff Sgt. Ann Pitt, 35, of Buffalo, NY, a US Army dog handler based near the south ern city of Nasiriya. "We have many items to help us do our mission, but I don't think we have a better detection tool than a dog," said Pitt, who cares for Buddy, ano ther Belgian Malinois, a dog similar to a German shepherd. They are more dependable and effective than almost anything we have available to us." The Army has deployed dogs since World War I to locate trip wires, track enemies, stand guard at base perimeters and search tunnels for explosive s or booby traps. Of 4,300 dogs sent to Viet nam, 2,000 were handed over to the South Vietnamese army and 2,000 were put to sleep. org , to raise funds for a memorial to honor the dogs and their handlers. In Iraq, dogs like Gordy and Buddy are posted at checkpoints and at entra nces to government buildings. They sniff for explosives among reporters' equipment at news conferences and passengers' bags at Baghdad's international airport. "What we do is prevent people from getting killed," said Artwell Chibero, Gordy's 29-year-old Zimbabwean handler, an employee of a private securi ty firm hired by the Defense Department. Dogs have 25 times more smell receptors than humans, Pitt said. "We smell spaghetti sauce and we think, 'Oh, the spaghetti sauce smells g ood,' " Pitt said. "To a dog, they would smell the tomatoes, the onions, the basil, oregano. Insurgents have long stuffed roadside bombs into the carcasses of animals . But Iraqi security officials say they increasingly worry about the use of live animals. "Dogs have been used in many areas by insurgents throughout Iraq" to carr y explosive devices, said Noori Noori, inspector-general at the Interior Ministry. "They used mentally retarded people for operations during the elections, so why wouldn't they use animals?" Last year in Ramadi, in the vast desert west of the capital, insurgents d ispatched a booby-trapped donkey toward a US-run checkpoint around sun set. "As one of the soldiers tried to stop it, the donkey exploded," sai d resident Mohammed Yas, 45. "The y are finding new ways to use remote-control technology." The daily newspaper Al Mada recently published an editorial cartoon showi ng an insurgent who strongly resembled Saddam Hussein trying to persuade a dog to strap on a belt bomb to advance the cause of the Baath Party, which once ruled Iraq. "It is such a simple task," the insurgent tells the terrified dog. "All y ou have to do is to put on this explosives belt, repeat the party's slog ans, and may Allah have mercy on your father's soul!" Times staff writers Zainab Hussein and Suhail Ahmad contributed to this r eport.
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