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8/10 Stories from a wounded Army soldier
http://csua.org/u/czk (Wash Post)
http://freerepublic.com comments on the end of the story
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460559/posts
\_ Freepers' version of respect for veterans "Wonder if this moron is
gay..sounds like what a queer would do." Why do freepers hate
America?
\_ "There is only room for one party in America and you liberals
better get used to it."
\_ So, is that an actual quote, or are you just making them
up again?
\_ http://csua.com/?entry=38572
\_ Oh, you're quoting liberal pretending to be a
conservative. That's so much better.
\_ Says you. That post was in earnest.
\_ Oh, come ON.
\_ Do you have evidence of who posted it?
Anyway, I could find you similar quotes
on any given conservative comment board
in two minutes.
\_ I don't require evidence of who posted
a troll to know it's a troll.
Especially one that blatant. I don't
Especially one that blantant. I don't
doubt that you could find something
similar on freerepublic or something.
I can find plenty of wacky left-wing
I can find pleanty of wacky left-wing
quotes on left-leaning boards too.
Anyway, please find one, at least then
you'd be using a real quote from a
real wing-nut, and not just someone
pretending to be a wing-nut.
\_ I am pretty sure it was jblack. He
posted a bunch of similar stuff that
day, then deleted anyone who disagreed
with him, then posted that. But it is
the motd, so there is no proof.
\_ Well, yeah. In this case, I
don't think it was jblack.
However, I can't say with
complete confidence that jblack
wouldn't post something like
that.
\_ This is egregious even for FR standards--the comments make me sick.
I wonder how many of the posters there are/were in the army. -John |
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| csua.org/u/czk -> www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/09/AR2005080901441_pf.html com Talking Wounded Terry Rodgers Came Back From Iraq a Changed Man, and Not Just Because of the Bomb By Peter Carlson Washington Post Staff Writer Wednesday, August 10, 2005; C01 "So we're driving down the road and it's midnight, so it's pitch-black, a nd when you're driving at night, you don't use any lights," says Terry R odgers, "but we can see fine because we've got night vision goggles." He's sitting in the living room of his mother's townhouse in Gaithersburg , telling the story of his last night in Iraq. He's still got his Army c rew cut and he's wearing a T-shirt with an American flag on the chest. "We're driving down this road and there's this tiny bridge over a little canal," he says. "They had rigged up this bomb and they had a tripwire r unning across the bridge and we hit it and it blew up." Like the rest of the 13,877 Americans wounded in Iraq, Rodgers has a stor y to tell. He tells it in a matter-of-fact voice, like he's talking abou t making a midnight pizza run or something. He's sitting in an armchair with his right leg propped on an ottoman, the foot encased in a soft bla ck cast that reaches almost to the knee. "And me, I'm trying to crawl out of the Humvee and I get most of my body out and just this leg is stuck and I thought it must be caught on someth ing in the twisted metal. I just had to pick up my leg and crawl the rest of the way out." He mimes the action of picking up his leg with his hands, then he continu es the story. "I started patting myself down and that's when I noticed that my face too k some shrapnel," he says. "It was all swollen on this side, so when I'm patting myself down, my middle finger went, like, this deep into my che ek where the shrapnel went in." He points to a spot about halfway down his finger, showing how far it wen t into the shrapnel wound behind his right eye, which is still pretty mu ch blind, unable to see anything but bright light. I knew my femur was broken, but at t hat time I didn't know my calf was missing," he says. "And that's when I hear my best friend Maida and he started heaving." Rodgers takes a few loud, quick breaths to show what Mark Maida sounded l ike. "And he breathes like that for a few seconds and then he just stops. "The two trucks behind us had to stop and make sure the area was secure b efore they could help us," he says. and when the heli copter finally showed up, they loaded me and Maida into the chopper and flew us to Baghdad. "And after that, I don't remember anything till like a week after I got t o Walter Reed." Heeding the Call Terry Rodgers, who just turned 21, grew up in Rockville, son of a carpent er and a courthouse clerk. After graduating from Richard Montgomery High School in 2002, he worked as a mechanic in a Washington gas station, th en joined the Army. He signed up in October 2002, but he didn't go into the Army until the fo llowing July. In between, the United States invaded Iraq, but Rodgers di dn't pay much attention to that. "Basically we would just play laser tag in the desert," he says. They deployed to Iraq this January, assigned to a town about 30 miles sou th of Baghdad. Two nights after they arrived, an IED -- improvised explo sive device -- blew up near their patrol base but nobody got hurt. Later , somebody set off a car bomb on the street in front of the base. "It didn't do anything to us Americans," he says, "but it killed a few ci vilians." Most days, Rodgers's platoon would patrol the town in Humvees, then set u p a TCP -- traffic control point -- where they'd stop cars and search th em for weapons. Or they'd do "house calls": "We'd pick random houses and just go in and search 'em." Sometimes they'd do a "dismounted patrol," which meant they wandered through the streets on foot. "We'd have an interpreter with us and we'd try to talk to people," he say s "We didn't have any incidents when we were out walking. The biggest i ncident we'd have on foot patrol is we'd be mobbed by little kids asking us for candy. When people from back home would send me candy, I'd alway s give that to the kids." Occasionally the Americans would hear about a house where somebody was ru mored to be storing weapons or building bombs. "We'd try to be as quiet as we could until we got to the front door, and then you just have the bat tering ram and you open the front door and you run in yelling and pullin g your weapons and try to gain control of the house as fast as you can." Other patrols found illegal weapons on these raids, but Rodgers's never d id. "We had these overhead maps, satellite maps, and when you're on the street in the middle of th e night, it's hard to find the right house. In those instances, we'd say , 'Sorry,' and give 'em a card with a phone number to call the Army and we'd pay for the damages." In April, Rodgers's company was transferred to a tiny farming town about 20 miles away -- a place where no Americans had been stationed. "We started looking for a building that would be suitable for a patrol ba se," he says. There was a family living there and we had to kick 'em out. They weren't too happy about it , but there was nothing they could do." A few days after they arrived in the little town, a Humvee on patrol was blown up by a bomb buried on a dirt road. "It picked up the Humvee, and when it was in the air, it turned on its si de," Rodgers says, "and my friend fell out and the Humvee ended up landi ng on him and it crushed him and he was killed." About a week later a car approached their patrol base, and the guys fired a few rounds to signal the driver that he should stop. When they opened the trunk, a bomb e xploded, killing both of them. In three months, Rodgers's company had suffered no casualti es -- nobody killed, nobody wounded. "We hadn't experienced anything like that before so it was nerve-racking, " he says. "You try not to think about it because you have to get out th ere and keep doing the same things. Obviously if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen, and worrying abut it isn't going to do you any good." Then, on a Thursday night, May 26, Rodgers's platoon was guarding the bas e when it got a call from a platoon that was patrolling the area: They'd found a bomb and needed reinforcements. Rodgers and about 10 other guys piled into three Humvees and scrambled of f to help. Speeding through the darkness, wearing their night vision gog gles, they came to the canal with the bridge, where the bomb was. The Wounds of War Rodgers was flown to Baghdad, then to Germany, then to Washington, where he was taken to Walter Reed Army Medical Center on Memorial Day. "The first memories I have turn out to be hallucinations," he says. I tho ught little kids were jumping on me, stealing my eyes and my teeth." He was doped up on pain medicine that made him see things that weren't th ere. "He kept yelling at me to get the people behind him," his mother, Ann Rod gers, recalls. Also, his right ear couldn't hear and his right eye couldn't see. The doctors wired his jaw shu t, put a metal rod in his leg, did nine hours of surgery on his eye, rec onstructed his calf, and did skin grafts. Every night somebody stayed with him -- his mother or father or sister Marie, or his girlfriend, Jane Libert, 19, a student a t McDaniel College in Maryland. Generals came by to shake his hand a nd ask how he was doing. The Dave Matthews Band visited, as did players from the Washington Nationals and Colorado Rockies. One day a nurse came in to ask Rodgers if he wanted to meet President Bus h, who was visiting the hospital. "My belief is that h is ego is getting people killed and mutilated for no reason -- just his ego and his reputation. If we really wanted to, we could pull out of Ira q Maybe not completely but enough that we wouldn't be losing people -- at least not at this rate. So I think he himself is responsible for quit e a few American deaths." Bill Swisher, a spokesman for Walter Reed, says it's "fairly common" for patients to decline to see visitors. "We've had visitors from Sheryl Cro w to Hulk Hogan," he says, but he has no idea how many have refused to s ee Bush, who has visited the hospital eight times. Rodgers says he also declined to meet D... |
| www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1460559/posts Rodgers was flown to Baghdad, then to Germany, then to Washington, wh ere he was taken to Walter Reed Army Medical Center on Memorial Day. He got visits from celebrities, to o Generals came by to shake his hand and ask how he was doing. One day a nurse came in to ask Rodgers if he wanted to meet President Bus h, who was visiting the hospital. "My belief is that h is ego is getting people killed and mutilated for no reason -- just his ego and his reputation. If we really wanted to, we could pull out of Ira q Maybe not completely but enough that we wouldn't be losing people -- at least not at this rate. So I think he himself is responsible for quit e a few American deaths." Bill Swisher, a spokesman for Walter Reed, says it's "fairly common" for patients to decline to see visitors. "We've had visitors from Sheryl Cro w to Hulk Hogan," he says, but he has no idea how many have refused to s ee Bush, who has visited the hospital eight times. Rodgers says he also declined to meet Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Co ndoleezza Rice. This wounded soldier has lost faith in his leaders, and he no longer believes their repeated assurances of victory. "There's always gonna be insurgents trying to blow us up. There's just too many of 'em that a re willing to do it. And it seems l ike they have unlimited amounts of ammunition. hes clueless "It was something I always wanted to do," he says. He signed up in October 2002, but he didn't go into the Army until the fo llowing July. In between, the United States invaded Iraq, but Rodgers di dn't pay much attention to that. So he thought that the Army was just going to be Camp Runamokka, but with uniforms and cool guns and $40k for college. Newsflash to Mr Rodgers: Join the military, and they may ask you to go s omeplace where YOU GET SHOT AT, YOU DUFUS. View Replies To: OldCorps So did the Washington Post also do stories about military personnel not w anting to meet with Clinton? Or about the mass exodus of military staff that also occurred under Slick's watch? View Replies To: OldCorps Have they printed the proportional eight other stories where the wounded soldier leapt at the chance to meet the president and re-enlisted? View Replies To: OldCorps "It's gonna go on as long as we're there," he says. "There's always gonna be insurgents trying to blow us up. There's just too many of 'em that a re willing to do it. And it seems l ike they have unlimited amounts of ammunition. I guess with a defeatist attitude like that you're right. Don't worry, ju st come home and let those not consumed with hate and self-pity do the h ard work of destroying this insurgency. By the way, there were also too many Germans with unlimited amounts of am munition, but we did finally beat them too. View Replies To: OldCorps This soldier earned the right to criticize anyone he wishes. If he doesn' t want to meet the POTUS that is his right. BUTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT The Washington Compost has a responsability as the Fourth Estate to bring balance to this issue. Although the overwhelming majority of troops (wounded or not) support the efforts of the US in Iraq and elswhere, the POS of the Post has AGAIN sold out the US to advocate a position on the war that they don't want to admit. The y use surrogate stories to reflect their position against the war. God f orbid the Compost comes out and says: "Warning this story reflects our P osition on the WOT. We are against it PERIOD" Their dishonesty is beneath contempt. I think many young people signed up to get money for s chool, which is fine. But it is foolish of them to think that they might never be called to defend this country. View Replies To: Bommer When toilet paper just isn't good enough.... The Washington Post, much like the Koran is NOT toilet paper, and I stren uously object to the implication that it is. Both scratch uncomfortably when used as such, and require 3-4 flushes of a standard toilet to clear the bowl. And one runs the risk of a severe clog when using either docu ment. Instead, I would suggest the following uses: 1 cat box liner 2 garage floor protectant, against oil drips and spills 3 ammo for "spudzooka", when you need to shoot something indoors (have f ire exinguisher handy) 4 25 and 50 meter targets for small arms Just be creative. View Replies To: bubman This soldier earned the right to criticize anyone he wishes. If he doesn' t want to meet the POTUS that is his right. i also thank him for his service and i will not criticize him for taking a paycheck for his service to this country as some have done. just as the press has done no thing to point out that the horrible cindy woman camped on bush's ranch is either inconsistent or insane, they will never provide balance in pre senting this story. i wouldn't mind this story so much if they interview ed a FEW pro-bush/military engagement soldiers, of which there are many. but dishonesty is part of the press's m/o these days, just as they did no t seem to notice that that crazy former national guard nut from texan ha d a few "mental issues." dishonesty is the reason everyone is tuning out everyone is tuning out of the msm. View Replies To: SMARTY Someone ought to ask him if he had this 'belief' about the Administration when he was cashing his checks. Was it Patton who slapped a soldier because the soldier was laying in the hospital bed all scared and crying during his visit, while real soldier s with serious wounds never complained? made him apo logize publically for that, I think, when in fact, patton was being a So ldier General and the weepy, girly "supposed soldier" got a lot less tha n he deserved) Thats how I feel about these weenies who take our money a nd seek the glory of a Soldier when in fact, they are nothing but little boys playing dress-up. View Replies To: bubman Their dishonesty is beneath contempt. They take joy is putting our Brave Warriors at risk with their distortions and relentless attacks on Bush. The powers that be at the compost are evil people for purposely pu tting our Brave Warriors lives in jeopardy. View Replies To: recoveringlurker It is manifestly dishonorable for a man to voluntarily enlist into the Mi litary (under ANY set of circumstances or inducements or in exchange for any benefits) and then to condemn its leadership and its causes just be cause the odds worked against him. The odds are patently obvious to any one who is smart enough to qualify in the first place AND a Military is after all a combat organization not a group of bakers or plumbers. they are nothing but little boys playing dress-up" Right. Sounds like he only had the kind and amount of courage he needed t o walk into the recruiting office but not the kind of courage he needed to hold up his end of the arrangement. Once soldiers enlist, if they are any good as men or as soldiers they do not re-do the deal once the situation becomes dangerous. View Replies To: OldCorps This wounded soldier has lost faith in his leaders, and he no longer beli eves their repeated assurances of victory. The Compost just loves this, I'm sure, but this soldier is SO much better off than many of his comrades. "Basically we would just play laser tag in the desert," he says. I thank Rodgers for his service and I sincerely hope he recovers fully fr om his wounds. However, from a lot of the comments Rodgers made in the article, he sound s pretty immature a/o naive and may one day regret passing up the opport unity to meet his Commander in Chief. He was apparently unaware we were fighting a war in Afghanistan when he j oined the military. Had he been deployed and injured in Afghanistan, methinks his sentiments and behavior would have been the same. View Replies Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. |
| csua.com/?entry=38572 com/s/nm/20050712/pl_nm/bush_leak_dc \_ you're the one deleting replies to your threads, hiding url's, and generally being a baby. com/s/nm/20050712/pl_nm/bush_leak_dc "Any individual who works here at the White House has the president's con fidence. They wouldn't be working here if they didn't have the presiden t 's confidence," McClellan told reporters in answer to a question. McCl ellan had previously refused to say whether Bush still had confidence in Rove. The adviser, the architect of Bush's two presidential election wi ns, was reported earlier this week to have talked to at least one report er about Plame's role at the CIA before she was identified in a newspape r column in July 2003. In September that year McClellan rejected as "rid iculous" any suggestion that Rove was involved in the Plame leak. The ke y questions went unanswered by the White House for a second straigh t da y So far this week, McClellan has told reporters 23 times that he w oul d not comment because of the "ongoing investigation." In an Oval Office meeting with the pr ime minister of Singapore, Bush did not respond to a reporter's shouted question about whether he intended to dismiss Rove. Bush had pledged to dismiss any leakers in the case, which is being inve s tigated by a special prosecutor. Plame's name was given to reporters a nd published in the media after her husband, US diplomat Joseph Wilson, publicly questioned assertions by the Bush administration about Iraq's w eapons programs, cited as a reason for the 2003 invasion. REPUBLICANS RA LLY ROUND Several prominent Republicans rallied around Rove after some D emocrats in Congress called for him to be fired. Democrats have also urg ed Bush to sideline Rove by suspending his access to classified informat ion. McClellan brushed aside the suggestion, saying: "There are a number of pe ople at the White House that have various levels of security clea rance a nd I'm confident that those individuals have the appropriate sec urity cl earance." "I don't want to do any thing to jeopardize the inves tigation," he said. He added: "And just bec ause I'm not commenting on a continuing investigation doesn't mean you s hould read anything into it beyond that." The White House came under increasing pressure this week to explain Rove' s role in the case after reports that Rove was one of t he secret sources who spoke to Time magazine reporter Matt Cooper about Plame and her hus band. Rove's lawyer was quoted as saying his client di d not mention Plam e by name. Faced with jail if he did not discuss his sources, Cooper agreed last wee k to testify in the investigation. New Y ork Times reporter Judith Miller refused to testify about sources she sp oke to on the story and was jail ed. "The White House's credibility is a t issue here, and I believe very clear ly that Karl Rove ought to be fir ed," said Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Republican National Committee , said Rove was a victim of a "political smear" by Kerry and other Democr ats. "You're seeing a partisan smear by the other side," he said. A top Senate Republican aide said, "I expect Rove to stay -- unless the s peci al prosecutor steps forward and says he did violate the law." Top White House advisor Karl Rove is pictured during a speech to the Conservative Political Action conference in Washington in this February 17, 2005 file photo. President Bush kept quiet on Tuesday when asked whe ther he woul d fire Rove, who has come under a cloud over his involvement in a CIA le ak scandal. Republication or r edistribution of Reuters content is expre ssly prohibited without the pri or written consent of Reuters. Reuters s hall not be liable for any error s or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon . |
| freerepublic.com -> www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse Republic Log In | Register News/Activism Latest | Search | Topics | Home | Help News/Activism Threads Threads | Messages Search (by title: enter all relevant words or partial title) Search Austrians Praise Schwarzenegger in US Posted by Ernest_at_the_Beach On 05/13/2004 9:28:13 PM PDT with 1 comment The Las Vegas Sun ^ | May 13, 2004 at 11:56:36 PDT | GEORGE JAHN GRAZ, Austria (AP) - America, nein. Arnie, ja! When Austrians vent about the United States, the key word nowadays is "no" to things American, with only a few exceptions - including praise of Arnold Schwarzenegger. Arnie, that country has a real problem," says Robert Biber, echoing sentiments across Austria roused by images of US soldiers abusing Iraqi prisoners. Outrage as KISS player mouths off on Muslims Posted by veronica On 05/13/2004 9:25:48 PM PDT with 3 comments Sydney Morning Herald ^ | May 14, 2004 KISS bass player Gene Simmons has caused an uproar among Australia's Muslim community by launching an attack on Islamic culture while in Melbourne. The lizard-tongued rock god who is touring Australia with the world's most enduring glam rock band launched an attack on Muslim extremists during an interview on Melbourne's 3AW radio - including comments which were labelled inaccurate. Cold Turkey Posted by Rennes Templar On 05/13/2004 9:23:01 PM PDT In These Times ^ | May 10, 2004 | Kurt Vonnegut Many years ago, I was so innocent I still considered it possible that we could become the humane and reasonable America so many members of my generation used to dream of. We dreamed of such an America during the Great Depression, when there were no jobs. And then we fought and often died for that dream during the Second World War, when there was no peace. But I know now that there is not a chance in hell of Americas becoming humane and reasonable. Because power corrupts us, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. May, 2004 10amET | Fintan Dunne The family firm of beheaded American Nick Berg, was named by a conservative website in a list of 'enemies' of the Iraq occupation. That could explain his arrest by Iraqi police --a detention which fatally delayed his planned return from Iraq and may have led directly to his death. Nick Berg, 26 disappeared into incommunicado detention after his arrest by Iraqi police in March, 2004. He vanished again after his release 13 days later. 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Berg's Father Demands Answers From Bush (Free Republic mentioned) Posted by kristinn On 05/13/2004 9:13:32 PM PDT with 25 comments Duluth News Tribune ^ | Thursday, May 13, 2004 | Nicole Weisensee Egan Posted on Thu, May 13, 2004 Berg's father demands answers from Bush BY NICOLE WEISENSEE EGAN Knight Ridder Newspapers PHILADELPHIA - (KRT) - The day he buried his son, Nick Berg's father angrily lashed out at President Bush - and said he had a question for him: "I would like to ask him if it's true that al-Qaeda offered to trade my son's life for another person," Michael Berg told a small group of reporters early Thursday morning outside his West Chester home. One Last Card to Play Posted by Russian Sage On 05/13/2004 9:10:54 PM PDT Claremont Review of Books ^ | Posted March 18, 2004 | By Peter W Schramm One Last Card to Play A review of Lincoln's Emancipation Proclamation: The End of Slavery in America, by Allen C Guelzo. Since 1865, the new york state library has been the proud owner of the original Preliminary Emancipation Proclamation. Media Maelstrom Posted by hope On 05/13/2004 9:06:15 PM PDT with 3 comments News Max ^ | 5-11-04 | John L Perry Media MaelstromJohn L PerryTuesday, May 11, 2004 This presidential election is in peril of being swallowed in a perfect media storm, more terrifying than Edgar Allen Poes A Descent Into the Maelstrom. With the inexorable force of the novelists oerpowering whirlpool that funnels nearly every object in its clutches down, down, down into certain doom, the perfect storm of television is sucking American democracy into oblivion. The way things are headed, television mass communications with print media puppy-trotting alongside its ankles are what will determine the outcome of the 2004 presidential election. Not the candidates. Bush Team to Rework Iraq Funding After Senate Balks Posted by Ernest_at_the_Beach On 05/13/2004 8:59:04 PM PDT with 7 comments Yahoo via AFP ^ | Thu May 13, 4:11 PM ET | Vicki Allen WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Bush administration officials said they would rework a plan for a $25 billion reserve fund for Iraq (news - web sites) operations after Republican and Democratic senators on Thursday deplored it as an effort to get "a blank check" without congressional oversight. STRATFOR: Geopolitical Diary: Friday, May 14, 2004 Posted by Axion On 05/13/2004 8:57:27 PM PDT STRATFOR ^ | May 14, 2004 0305 GMT Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Richard Myers went to Iraq on May 13. Three things are clear from this trip. First, the administration is committed to retaining Rumsfeld, or at least is committed to doing everything it can to salvage him. An open letter-- Berg dies while the Senate preens Posted by hatfieldmccoy On 05/13/2004 8:54:43 PM PDT with 16 comments vanity | 5-13-04 | hatfieldmccoy Senator Hagel, Senator Nelson, It has taken two days for me to have regained my composure to the point I could actually write you. You see, I've seen the unedited video of the Berg (an American) murder. Yes I watched the horrors of 9-11. I saw the Pearl (an American) murder video and the burning and gleeful dismemberment of the four security personnel (Americans). But the Berg video was staring straight into Hell. These things took their time. They used a dull knife and took 30 seconds to saw off this man's head. AM ET LONDON, May 13 (Reuters) - Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper suspended the weekly column of Barbara Amiel-Black after its parent, Hollinger International, filed a lawsuit accusing her and her husband Conrad Black of looting the company. Martin Newland, the editor of Britain's top-selling broadsheet, "has decided to suspend the column until legal proceedings are completed," the paper said in a statement on Thursday. What Led Nick Berg to Iraq? Posted by dyno35 On 05/13/2004 8:48:10 PM PDT with 20 comments The Philadelphia Daily News ^ | May 13, 2004 | By William Bunch BERG'S JOURNEY SPARKED FBI PROBE AND OTHER STRANGE DETAILS HE WAS not like anyone else his friends from West Chester had ever known - an adventurous dreamer, a driven idealist, part philosopher and part inventor who was bored with college Record 26m divorce win 'a pyrrhic victory' (More Saudi kidnapping) Posted by Lan... |