8/5 Jvarga, don't listen to the flaming idiots. Most people in the CSUA
appreciate what you are doing, even if not all your decisions are
perfect. In particular, I would ignore tom, whose only purpose in
life is to piss on other people's work while contributing nothing
of his own. Thank you for contributing your time and effort to the CSUA.
-- ilyas
\_ gee, thanks ilyas. now take your foot out of your mouth, since
I'm not one of the people flaming jvarga. Fuckwad. -tom
\_ I thought your 'commentary' on jvarga was, if not outright
flaming, pretty abrasive (this is on wall). The problem is,
your abrasiveness is such a part of your personality, you
don't even notice when you are like it anymore, it seems
normal to you. -- ilyas
\_ what, where I compared NIS as a possibly questionable
technical decision, to paolo being a complete fucking
idiot? And where I said he was doing better than the
last N VPs? -tom
\_ Tom, I am sorry, I misread what you were saying.
-- ilyas
\_ Hey tom, which of jvarga's actions were "fucking idiotic"?
In all the time I've used soda so far (since 1998 or so),
jvarga seems to be the friendliest and most active csua
official ever. Well in terms of soda, I dunno wtf goes on
with the actual, you know, group stuff. But in general
insulting someone who is helping our asses for free makes
you the fuckwad.
\_ Read it again. I was calling paolo a fucking idiot, not
jvarga. -tom
\_ oh, I guess ilyas had me going. ilyas is back to
fuckwad for the day.
\_ He is NOT a Jew, so he has no credibility. -jew #1
\_ I agree, maybe not about tom, but running soda is a tough job,
and I appreciate all the work that is going into it. --jwm
\_ I would say, you're doing it for free, thanks.
Nothing's perfect, but if shit starts breaking that used to work,
we're coming for you, jvarga! Is that fair?
\_ What is to not agree about tom? Everything ilyas says is
correct or has been proven to be correct in general. He
hates everything, and replies "this sucks" to everything
we do. Take the google/housing map for example.
\_ Tom can be very abrasive, agreed. But I wouldn't say
"[his] only purpose in life is to piss on other people's
work while contributing nothing of his own." Those of us
that have a long history with the CSUA know this isn't true.
\_ No matter what someone has done for the CSUA, that is
*never* an excuse to mistreat another human being.
\_ DUde! It's a GREAT excuse to mistreat a human being!!1!
I can't think of a better reason to kick the walker out
from under some old lady in the middle of an
intersection! "I gave $100 to the CSUA....BITCH!!!
<whap!>" Goddamn, now I feel like donating to the
CSUA again.....
\_ Fine, we can't agree that tom's an asshole. Let's try
to agree on something else, like, iff CSUA were run
like Survival the TV show, then tom would be the first
to be voted out. Can we agree on that?
\_ Actually, I'd vote your ass off first, since tom
has actually done something more useful than whine like
a little puppy.
\_ Tom has actually given quite alot of good technical
advice here. He may be caustic at times, but he
knows his stuff and is willing to share information.
Personally, I'd be sorry to see him gone. -mice
\_ No matter what someone has done for the CSUA, that
is *never* an excuse to mistreat another human being.
\_ I see far more people mistreating fellow human
beings (tom, ilyas, emarkp, to name a few) than
I see defending them or their rights. It seems
strange to me that you'd be quick to jump to the
defense of their (often vicious) detractors, and
yet be silent when they come under attack
unprovoked. Not two posts up there's someone
mistreating another human being....where's your
outrage for that? Or is your outrage only
reserved for those that defend people that you
personally don't like?
\_ The ratio of useful comments over caustic remarks
so low, it's almost 0. So, I'd be happy when he
gets a life and moves on, or get squished. Wait
I'd be happy when I get a life so I don't have
read and post on the stinking motd.
\_ You know, the ratio of useful comments over
{caustic, stupid, bullshit, whatever} remarks on
the motd is pretty low. As for the weenies who
attack people randomly and anonymously, that's a
whole different story. -John
attack people randomly and anonymously, that's
a whole different story. -John
\_ He knows a little bit about this and that and
all are certainly entitled to shoot the breeze
about the political issues of the day. But he
goes beyond that. He sometimes has valid points
limited to user interface issues, but given the
actual programming is well-beyond his abilities
he should offer them in a more humble spirit.
And on plenty of occasions he is simply
wrong in his design criticisms, and is either
unable to admit to the errors or is unwilling to
see things from a non-Tom centric perspective.
It would be smartest to just ignore the pompous
and ignorant comments about technical matters
(relating to filesystems, programming language
design, networking protocols, operating system)
in the face of many humbler and better informed
people on soda, but I find it difficult to do so.
\_ I am also a pompous ass with strong opinions
on language design. Why I rant about the
loathsomeness of Perl practically daily.
-- ilyas
\_ Okay ilyas, show us on the doll where
perl touched you....
\- Aren't you a graduate student in
computer science who presumably has
taken a compiler class and a class
on abstract languages? That seems to
give you at least nominal qualifications
to make informed judgments. When it
come to some of your out-of-core-competency
opinions, we'll ignore you. ok tnx.
\_ prz be to stick an ice pick in your
eye for using 'core competency' in a
non-ironic way. kthxbai. -- ilyas
\- do you love I BERLIN? business
people [jim collins] have coopted
his HEDGEHOG.
\_ Yes, that seems likely. But we have consider that
a fair number of people have already been voted off.
\_ who? |