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| 2005/8/4-8 [Politics/Domestic/911] UID:38994 Activity:kinda low |
8/2 International Police Chiefs Group issues Shoot-To-Kill Guidelines
for Confronting Suicide Bombers:
http://officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=4&id=25126
\_ The exact text from the document:
"Lethal force is justified if the suspect represents a significant
threat of death or serious injury to an officer or others. ... An
officer need only determine that the use of deadly force is
objectively reasonable under the circumstances."
Sounds good to me!
Citizens:
Do not wear bulky clothing on warm days, do not carry backpacks
with protruding wires, do not run from people holding guns yelling
stop (who may be plainclothes officers) and board public transit,
be aware if your apartment building is under surveillance, avoid
looking nervous, and be more careful if you match a profile.
\_ Turban = terrorist hat, so avoid wearing in public.
\- for sikhs (as opposed to muslims) wearing a turban is close
to non-negotiable rather than a fashion statement. have there
been any turban-wearing terrorists in the west [a sikh fellow
assassinated I GANDHI, i dont know if he was wearing a turban
at the time ... i would certainly assume so, given the back-
ground.] --psb
\- Why dont we ask good sikhs to wear white turbans and bad
sikhs and terrorists to wear black turbans --alig
\_ And we can make *our* towelheads wear american flag
turbans (though perhaps we should make the liberal
ones wear a pink moon or something on their sleeves
for easier, uhm, identification....)
\_ As long as you don't resist arrest, you're fine. The Shoot-
To-Kill guidelines applies only if the suspect resists arrest,
as in the Britain case.
\_ Getting arrested isn't fine though. They can still push you
to the ground, kneel on you and shout at you etc. And
\_ Getting arrested isn't fine though. They can still push
you to the ground, kneel on you and shout at you etc. And
they can chain you to a chair in a cold jail cell with
flimsy clothes and a roomful of weirdos, and when you
get out the cash might be gone from your wallet.
to the ground, kneel on you and shout at you etc.
And they can chain you to a chair in a cold jail cell with
flimsy clothes and a roomful of weirdos, and when you get
out the cash might be gone from your wallet.
\_ Are you quoting from the official document, or are you
talking more about your personal opinion?
Please also note that witnesses do not remember hearing the
plainsclothes police identifying themselves as such to
the dead innocent guy from Brazil.
\_ The guy who took a running jump over a turnstile the day
after a bombing. He may have been innocent, but he
earned his Darwin Award.
\_ After being followed by suspicious looking guys
since you left your apartment who pull out guns
when you head down into the train station?
Anyway, are you quoting from the official document
or is it more about your personal opinion?
We were talking about the shoot-to-kill guidelines
from the Intl Police Chiefs Association.
\- the line about how to stop a SUICIDE BOMBER:
"destroy his brain instantly, utterly" is pretty
cold! the sort of line CHURCHILL would be
proud of.
\_ This line is not new, police snipers are
taught to hit the motion centre of the brain
taught to hit a certain portion of the brain
(the thalamus I think) which enables motion
when killing people holding hostages. -- ilyas
\_ Thank god you don't have a gun, you seem
to be very unstable sometimes.
\_ Hehehe. -- ilyas
\_ BWWWAHAHAHAHAHA! -mice
\- i think the idea of instant death/head shot
iswnt new, but the line is what is new. |
| 5/17 |
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| officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=4&id=25126 Funding & Administration International Police Chiefs Group Issues New Shoot-To-Kill Guidelines for Confronting Suicide Bombers, Newspaper Reports ASSOCIATED PRESS WASHINGTON (AP) -- An international organization representing the heads o f police departments across the world has issued new guidelines recommen ding that officers who confront a suicide bomber should shoot the suspec t in the head, the Washington Post reported. The recommendations by the International Association of Chiefs of Police take a more aggressive posture than typical lethal-force guidelines for police departments, the newspaper reported on its Web Site late Wednesda y It said the guidelines were published July 8 - before the London poli ce, acting on a similar policy, on July 22 fatally shot a Brazilian elec trician in the head because they mistook him for a suicide bomber. In the United States, the National Bomb Squad Commanders Advisory Board i s developing the first national guidelines for responding to suicide bom bers, the newspaper said. Gainer's force is responsible for protecting members of Con gress, their staff members and visitors to the US Capitol. Last year, Gainer became the first US police chief to adopt a shoot-to- kill policy if his officers confront a suspected suicide bomber who is u ncooperative, and other US law enforcement agencies are considering ad opting a similar policy, the newspaper said. The International Association of Chiefs of Police, responding to the July 7 attacks on three London subways and a double-decker bus that killed 5 2 people, produced a training guide for dealing with suicide bombers for its 20,000 members, the newspaper said. The Post said the guidlines recommend that if an officer needs to use let hal force to stop someone who fits a certain behavioral profile, the off icer should ''aim for the head'' to kill the person instantly and preven t the setting off of a bomb. The association's behavioral profile says a suicide bombing suspect might exhibit ''multiple anomalies,'' including wearing a heavy coat or jacke t in warm weather or carrying a briefcase, duffle bag or backpack with p rotrusions or visible wires, the newspaper said. The profile also said suspects may display such characteristics as nervou sness, an unwillingness to make eye contact, excessive sweating, or mumb ling prayers or ''pacing back and forth in front of a venue,'' the newsp aper said. The Post said the police chiefs' guidelines say an officer does not have to wait until a suspected bomber makes a move in order to use deadly for ce, but just needs to have a ''reasonable basis'' to believe that the su spect can detonate a bomb. |