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7/14 "A suicide car bomb exploded next to US troops handing out candy and toys yesterday, killing 27 people, including 18 children and teenagers. A suicide car bomb exploded next to US troops handing out candy and toys yesterday, killing 27 people, including 18 children and teenagers." http://csua.org/u/cpn (boston.com) \_ It's odd that they didn't include "1 US soldier" in the "including" list. \_ Yeah, I saw that, just in case you thought for a millisecond that these suicide bombers weren't total human slime. \_ Just read an interesting article reinforcing the point that (a) the "western world"'s response to "terrorism" (no you can't fight terrorism, it's neither a group nor an ideology, just a method) is self-defeating, as it undermines what sets "us" apart from "them", and more significantly, that (b) it's being seen as fighting criminal incidents while "they" are seeing this as no less than a global war. Now if someone can come up exactly with who "they" are, we win. -John \_ It's just upsetting beyond words. \_ There's probably a surat that says somewhere that innocent children killed in jihad, go directly to heaven. I'm not saying it's cool, but it's the justification their dark overlords use. \_ My acquaintance serving in Iraq said that there were always many threats directed against kids that accepted gifts from American soldiers. \_ The main thing I'm concerned about is whoever was stupid enough not to think suicide bombers would kill children too. Duh. Everyone manning those two humvees that wasn't guarding an angle is partially responsible. Yes, you don't have to tell me that the suicide bomber is ultimately responsible. \_ You're an idiot. \_ You're the idiot, idiot. \_ "Everyone manning those two humvees that wasn't guarding an angle is partially responsible." That's quite possibly the dumbest thing ever written on the motd and that's saying a lot. \_ Your new post still doesn't suggest to me that you're not an idiot. Give it a rest. You think I'm saying something that I'm actually not saying. Let me spoon feed it to you. Remember that story a couple days ago about how a lot of recruits got blown up by a suicide bomber while waiting in line? Those recruits were protected by tall concrete barriers. The suicide bomber was dropped off at a gap in the barriers, where he squeezed through and blew up. In the same vein, whoever was responsible for setting up that barrier system is partially responsible for those deaths. And ... you don't need to tell me the suicide bomber is ultimately responsible. \_ Your utter ignorance of military tactics and situations combined with your uniquely retarded method of assigning blame labels you a complete and total idiot. \_ Like I said, you still think I'm saying something that I'm not saying. I still haven't quite spoon fed it entirely to you, yet, though. Has it occurred to you that, "Everyone manning those two humvees that wasn't guarding an angle", might actually equal 0 individuals, especially in the context of the sentence preceding that one? \_ Seriously, man -- you need to do a little more research before you can sound off in a convincing manner. You really are showing a lack of knowledge about the situation on the ground. The other guy is being kind of abrasive (to put it mildly), but he does have a point in there somewhere. \_ Dude, you're a putz and not worth my time. Reread what you wrote and not what you think you wrote. \_ I already did, and you obviously haven't gotten the point yet or are trolling. Thanks for nothing, buddy. If you really want to be serious you could take a poll on whether the ideas I put forward are "possibly the dumbest thing ever written on the motd", but I think you already have doubts about what the results would be, and would just say, "You're a putz and you're not worth my time". putz and not worth my time". \_ You're both fucking putzes. \_ Not sure about that, but you've added yourself to the list, although you should be credited for being succinct \_ Why don't we go right to where the real fault lies? To the parents of the people who got blown up. If they hadn't procreated in the first place, then there wouldn't even be someone to get blown up! |
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csua.org/u/cpn -> www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2005/07/14/iraq_attack_kills_18_children/ Middle East Falah Jabber, his unidentified wife, and their 4-day-old daughter were st ruck by flying glass in Baghdad. Falah Jabber, his unidentified wife, and their 4-day-old daughter were st ruck by flying glass in Baghdad. The Boston Globe Iraq attack kills 18 children US soldiers were giving out candy By Qassim Abdul-Zahra, Associated Press | July 14, 2005 BAGHDAD -- A suicide car bomb exploded next to US troops handing out cand y and toys yesterday, killing 27 people, including 18 children and teena gers. An American soldier was also killed and at least 70 people were injured, including a newborn and three US soldiers. Parents heard the shattering explosion and raced out to discover children 's mangled, bloodied bodies strewn on the street in the Shi'ite Muslim n eighborhood. Children's slippers lay piled near the blast crater, near a crumbled child's bicycle as blood pooled in the street. Twelve of the dead were 13 or younger and six were between 14 and 17, sai d police Lieutenant Mohammed Jassim Jabr. Among the wounded was 4-day-ol d Miriam Jabber, cut slightly by flying glass and debris. The troops beg an handing out candy and smiley-face key chains. The slaughter of so many Shi'ite children is likely to raise tensions fur ther between the majority Shi'ites, who dominate the government, and the minority Sunni Arabs, the foundation of the insurgency. In Washington, the new US ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad, warned th at both foreign terrorists and Iraqi insurgents linked to Saddam Hussein 's Ba'ath party were trying to foment civil war. see the Iraqi people, including Iraqi chil dren, as cannon fodder to be sacrificed in the pursuit of an extremist a genda of conflict between civilizations," Khalilzad told reporters. At Kindi hospital, where many victims were taken, a distraught mother swa thed in black sat cross-legged outside the operating room. After the bombing, charred remains of an engine block wrapped in barbed w ire sat on the road. US and Iraqi troops broadcast messages by loudspeak ers in Arabic, warning civilians not to approach military vehicles. In Washington, White House press secretary Scott McClellan strongly conde mned the bombing, saying it showed insurgents ''have no regard for innoc ent, human life whether it's men, women, or children." At least 1,759 members of the US military have died since the Iraq war st arted in March 2003. At least 983 people have been killed by car bombers or suicide bombers on foot since the new government was announced on April 28, according to a n Associated Press count. In September 2004, 35 Iraqi children were killed as bombs exploded while American troops handed out candy at a government-sponsored celebration t o inaugurate a Baghdad sewage plant. It marked the largest death toll of children in an insurgent attack since the Iraq conflict began. Later yesterday, about 200 people turned out for the funeral of five vict ims, in keeping with Muslim tradition to bury the dead quickly. The bomber used a brown Toyota Land Cruiser with a license plate from the southern city of Basra, police said. It was the second major suicide bo mbing in Baghdad this week. A suicide bomber killed 25 people Sunday at an army recruiting center. In a separate Baghdad attack yesterday, a roadside bomb exploded near a U S patrol, killing a 7-year-old child and seriously wounding a woman, pol ice said. However, US and Iraqi authorities acknowledge eliminating s uch attacks entirely is all but impossible. US officials have urged Shi'ites in government to reach out to the Sunnis , believing only a political strategy can end the insurgency. But a negotiated solution has proved difficult as mainstream Sunni groups complain of brutality by Shi'ite-dominated security forces. Sunni Arabs are believed to be about 20 percent of the country's 27 million people. Early yesterday, Iraqi security forces stormed several houses across Bagh dad, detaining, torturing, and killing 11 Sunni Arab men, including a cl eric, the Sunni clerical Association of Muslim Scholars said. The bodies were found later in the day in a Shi'ite neighborhood, said an association official, Sheik Hassan Sabri Salman. The government's Sunni Endowments, which cares for Sunni mosques, also reported the deaths. Sunni groups also accused security forces of allowing at least nine Sunni s detained last weekend to die after locking them for hours in a van wit hout ventilation as temperatures soared to 115 degrees. The Iraqi Interi or Ministry said both allegations are being investigated, and if true, t hose responsible will be punished. Also yesterday, at least three Iraqi soldiers were killed in two shootout s in Baghdad. |
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