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7/11 "The Truth About Hillary" has made the New York Times best-seller
list for the second week in a row - a development that has the Times
book review spitting mad.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440701/posts
\_ Micheal Moore's books were also best sellers, and were also retarded.
I think spending money on stupid books with some political axe to
grind that we agree with has become a major way Americans express
our political beliefs. It's stupid, but true. Now if only I
could find the right axe, I'd never have to work again.
\_ 1. write axe-grind book
2. buy up enough of your own book to make it a bestseller
3. since it's a bestseller, people will buy it to see what the
deal is
4. profit!
\_ have you read the book? even most conservatives think
ed klein is a piece of shit.
\_ Conservatives also said the same thing about Kitty Kelley's
laughable "The Family" book. Yet the NYTimes gave that one a
favorable review. link:csua.org/u/cof
\_ no but seriously, the book sucks, i read most of it but
i couldn't take it anymore. here is what your dark overlord
John Podhoretz has to say about it:
http://www.rightnation.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t80745.html
here is my dark overlord Al Franken interviewing Ed Klein
http://mediamatters.org/items/200506240007
Just bringing up this book makes you look silly. - danh
\_ you don't look like such an ass in person, what happened?
http://www-bsac.eecs.berkeley.edu/~jblack/eau.jpg
\_ maybe you need a cruise to unwind.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/banman/ads/Cruise2006a.300x250.jpg
\_ I think 2 and 3 can be simplified to: 2. enrage those who
disagree with you enough that they start to emit bile and
spittle in their favorite media. 3. Just to stick it to
those who disagree with you, those who agree will buy the
book. And of course no one will argue with 4. It's sure made
Michael Moore rich.
\_ Skip step one, and you've described the $cientology strategy
to a tee. |
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| www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440701/posts CHARLITE Edward Klein's book "The Truth About Hillary" has made the New York Times best-seller list for the second week in a row - a development that has the Times book review spitting mad. As NewsMax reported over a week ago, Klein debuted on the Times list this week in the No. Despite an orchestrated campaign to keep Klein off major TV talk shows, N ewsMax has learned that the best-selling author will be on the Times lis t next week as well, in the No. The liberal Gray Lady apparently doesn't like the fact that one of its ow n - Klein is former editor of the New York Times Magazine - penned a bit ing biography of one of the paper's icons, Hillary Rodham Clinton. The Times has yet to review the book, but took the unusual step in Sunday 's book section to publish a disclaimer attacking the book from pillar t o post in a sidebar column adjacent to the best-seller list. literary critics," T imesman Dwight Garner fumed, adding "it is easily this year's most vilif ied book." Then Garner promptly joined in the vilification: "Writing in the Book Review in 1988, Joyce Carol Oates coined the term 'p athography' to describe hatchet jobs like Klein's. Reading Oates's taxon omy of that genre today, it sounds as if she somehow had an advance copy of Klein's book rotting at her elbow." Still - in what must have been a gut-wrenching admission for the paper - Garner lamented, "That hasn't stopped Klein's book from landing on beach blankets; The paper's vitriol against Klein contrasts with its first-class treatmen t of Kitty Kelley's works, including her recent hit book on the Bush fam ily. Kelley's book on Nancy Reagan - in which Kelley alleged that Ronald Reagan engaged in date rape, among numerous other scurrilous allegation s - made Page One coverage in the Times. Klein, a veteran journalist and editor with credentials well beyond anyth ing Kelley has to offer, said he isn't bothered by the elite media's dis dain for his book. "My book's staying power on The Times list is testimony to the power of t he Internet and conservative talk radio," he told NewsMax on Saturday. " The mainstream liberal media no longer have a monopoly on what's news an d what isn't, and that's a healthy thing for America." More healthy still, "The Truth About Hillary's" best-seller status shows that readers were willing to defy the media blockade orchestrated by the Clintons. Hours after speaking to NewsMax, Klein told WABC Radio's Monica Crowley: "Hillary and her people have called up ... all the TV networks and the ne wspapers and said to them that if you give Ed Klein exposure, we're not going to be very happy about it." The result: "I've been canceled on man y of the TV shows that I was booked on," Klein said, "and have not had m y book reviewed by any of the major media." Klein appeared on Fox News' "Hannity & Colmes" the day his book was relea sed on June 21, but the network quickly canceled three scheduled intervi ews with the author. A wave of other cancellations followed, and CNN's "Lou Dobbs Tonight" and Sinclair Broadcasting's News Central were the only other programs to in terview the author. But the media censorship may be working in Klein's favor. Not only is his book a certified New York Times best-seller, it also debuts this week o n the Publisher's Weekly best-seller list in the No. com STOP BY AND BUMP THE FUNDRAISER THREAD- It is in the breaking news sidebar! "The paper's vitriol against Klein contrasts with its first-class treatme nt of Kitty Kelley's works, including her recent hit book on the Bush fa mily. Kelley's book on Nancy Reagan - in which Kelley alleged that Ronal d Reagan engaged in date rape, among numerous other scurrilous allegatio ns - made Page One coverage in the Times. View Replies To: satchmodog9 "When this is the header on CBS or ABC I will be impressed." So the logic is that, yes, the networks and most news outlets are bia sed, but the true test of journalistic integrity comes when they print o r air something. If you read both sentences you would have seen the part about Newsmax and their limited reach. The alphabet networks have enormo us amounts of influence and coverage area. View Replies To: CHARLITE I have no personal interest in this sort of book, just like I had no inte rest in KK's crap, but what tickles me endlessly is, despite the media b litz to quash this book, it is sitting at #2! View Replies To: golfisnr1 Mr Klein wouldn't commit to whether Hitlery was a lesbo. He did say she aided and abetted Bill's infidelities over the years. Compared to the President and the First Lady Laura, these Klintoon ca-ca are repulsive. It w as short on detail and long on opinions and descriptions. It didn't supp ly any more concrete info about some of the more mysterious and controve rsial parts of her past, just spent time reinforcing the image of her as cold and calculating, and covered mostly the Monica scandal and her col lege days. View Replies To: CHARLITE Is it common practice they don't bother to review "their" best sellers? I t would seem that if they don't review the most popular books they might as well eliminate publishing any reviews. View Replies Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works. |
| www.rightnation.us/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t80745.html Klein is referring to the $8 million advance Hillary Clinton received for her aut obiography. These are curious words to be publishing in 2005, when Klein and the worl d know that her book "Living History" was a phenomenal success and has e arned its author more than the $8 million in royalty payments advanced t o her. Because if any book in recent memory reads as thou gh it has been written out of greed a greedy hunger to separate millions of conservative book buyers from their hard-earned 25 bucks it is Ed Kl ein's "The Truth About Hillary." This is one of the most sordid volumes I've ever waded through. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive sta kes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive sta kes through my eyes so I wouldn't have to suffer through another word. Though Klein suggests in his subtitle that he has written a study of a po wer-hungry politician "What She Knew, When She Knew It, And How Far She' ll Go to Become President" he's produced something quite different. An u nduly celebratory biography is called a "hagiography." Despite a distinguished journalistic pedigree including stints as the edi tor of both Newsweek and The New York Times Magazine, Klein has chosen t o emulate the works of the highly dubious bio-defamer Charles Higham, wh o with the slimmest of evidence wrote books claiming that Errol Flynn wa s a gay Nazi spy and Howard Hughes was a bisexual. Klein may offer a few words here or there about Whitewater or Travelgate, but what really floats his boat is the Higham-like notion that Sen. He has no proof whatever for this claim save that she has had some lesbia n friends. "To be a lesbian," he lectur es on page 63, "it was not necessary for a woman to have a physical rela tionship with another woman. showtopic=80745 Gertie Keddle Jun 22 2005, 08:46 AM oops - Sorry mods, thanks for merging. On the plus side, between the two of us you've got the best excerpts and don't have to fool with registrat ion. This is not a scandal book intended merely to grati fy the reader's salacious interests. Instead, Mr Klein has written a se rious political and psychological biography of the most likely next Demo cratic nominee for president and thus, quite plausibly I fear, the next president of the United States. Although this is a heavily researched book that includes amongst its sources almost 100 people who are or were personally close Mrs Clinton, this is not a peek through a keyhole. Instead, it is a peek and more th an a peek into the mind of Hillary. And, whether you like or hate Hillar y, the inside of her mind is a fascinating place in which to rove about. Hillary haters will certainly find further evidence to support their se ntiment. Principled liberals , I suspect, will be deeply disconcerted by what they will find out about her mind in this book. But for people who like their presidents, ruthless, expedient and ver y smart (in a dangerous time those are not all bad features), the portra it Mr Klein paints may well not be seen as negative. In fact, as the au thor notes, Mrs Clinton has more than a little in common with Richard N ixon. One of the more interesting anecdotes recounted in the book describes the time President and MrsClinton met with President Nixon. It was Mar ch 1993, the first time Nixon had been invited back to the White House s ince he departed in 1974: "The elevator door opened, and the first person Nixon saw when he ste pped off was Hillary Clinton. This struck Nixon as an incredibly strange, wonkish gr eeeting from the First Lady. Maybe I could have if she hadn't been working to impeach me." The kid ran right to Clin ton and never once looked at her mother. I could see that she had a warm relationship with him, but was almost afraid of her mother. Somehow I don't see how "you can see the coldness in her eyes" translates into incisive psychological analysis. I think H R Clinton is dangerous, a completely amoral example of ambition personified, so I'm not defendi ng her but even the parts the people who like the book dig out don't mak e it sound particularly useful. |
| mediamatters.org/items/200506240007 Hosts Al Franken and Katherine Lanpher, and guest Joe Conason confronted author Edward Klein on the many factual errors, distortions, and mislead ing claims in his attack book on Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-NY), The Truth About Hillary (Sentinel, 2005). He also admitted that he had never seen Cli nton's chief of staff Melanne Verveer (whose name he misspelled in the b ook), although he described her appearance as "mannish-looking." But he refused to retract other false claims when confronted by Franken, Conaso n and Lanpher. Following is a transcript of the interview in its entirety: LANPHER: You're listening to the Al Franken Show. In the studio with us is Joe Conason, and i n Washington is Ed Klein. Ed Klein's new book is The Truth About Hillar y It's published by Sentinel from Penguin, which is my publisher, at D utton. He joins us from the Center for Am erican Progress in Washington DC Thank you, Ed, for joining us. FRANKEN: Okay, and now would you call this book your best work? anyway, I'll just quote what you wrote: "God, I almost forgot," he said, with a mischievous grin." That's talking about Pat Moynihan, the late senator from New York whose seat Hillary took. "God, I almost forgot," he said, with a mischievous grin. "I'm here to s ay that I hope she will go all the way, I mean to go all the way with h er. Now did you -- well, I did, and I actu ally did mention it in the lead-in, and I think I just did. Pat addressed -- as Joe Conason who's sitting there with you can, I'm sure, attest -- Pa t addressed the assembled press and mentioned Hillary's name three time s FRANKEN: Now did you leave anything out in between the two sentences tha t you quoted? And what you said after you quote the two sentences from Moynihan was -- KLEIN: Were there ellipses between the two sentences? Why don't you read the actual, what Senator Mo ynihan really said -- FRANKEN: This was -- CONASON: -- as opposed to what's in Mr Klein's book. FRANKEN: Well, this is what Moynihan said, and this is how he got into i t He said, "Now I have the great pleasure to welcome Mrs Clinton to t he farm and turn over the microphone to our candidate. Yesterday Hillary Clinton es tablished an exploratory committee as regards to her candidacy for the Senate, United States Senate from New York, a seat which I will vacate in a year and a half." And then you pick up with, "I'm here to say, I h ope she will go all the way. You deliberately left out the -- KLEIN: There's no -- CONASON: I know you don't have the book in front of you. How much would you like to bet there's no ellipsis on that page? And why would you have cut out the two references to her na me and put in an ellipsis? Because I -- here -- this is what I think, Ed, an d you may take issue with this. KLEIN: Well I -- FRANKEN: Really, honestly now, could you address that? KLEIN: First of all, I didn't know that you were a mind-reader, so that you're reading why I did something. CONASON: Oh, you're not in a good position to say that -- KLEIN: No? Because you've read her mind over and over again, and I doubt you've ever met her. CONASON: Oh, there's quite a bit about what's in her mind in this book t hat you could have no possible way of knowing. KLEIN: Well, let's start with the Moynihan -- CONASON: But answer this. Where, if you had put in an ellipsis, wouldn't the purpose of that have been to deceive? You know, we know yo u know very well that the Moynihans had no use for Hillary. I'm just asking you about this specific -- CONASON: I happen not to agree with that, but -- KLEIN: You don't agree with that? CONASON: But why -- if that were true -- why would you need to deceive t he readers into thinking he hadn't mentioned her name? FRANKEN: That's true, you know, usually when you have a good case, you d on't have to deceive people. I didn't know then, and I know he had disagreements -- KLEIN: You didn't have to read his mind. You got a lot of t hings wrong about Moynihan in here, but certainly you didn't need to, i f he really disliked her so much, why would you need to deceive the rea ders about what he actually said that day? KLEIN: My intention in this book was not to deceive anybody. KLEIN: Well, I didn't do it intentionally, and if I left out some words, I'm sorry. KLEIN: That certainly was not my intention, and we know that when Pat fi nally came to do the endorsement, he didn't use her name. CONASON: You think about the answer while we're taking a break. LANPHER: We'll come back to our conversation with Ed Klein, the author o f, of The Truth about Hillary here on the Al Franken Show. LANPHER: I'm Katherine Lanpher, and sitting with us, of course, is Frida y regular Joe Conason. We're continuing our conversation with Edward Kl ein, who has out the new biography, The Truth About Hillary, published by Sentinel. FRANKEN: And, and Ed, ah, we, we want to give you a chance to, to kind o f respond, because, you know, you might get the feeling it's like three against one, but I've got to tell you, Katherine just loves the book. KLEIN: When you, uh, asked me on this program -- FRANKEN: Mmmm. KLEIN: -- ah, and spoke to my publisher -- FRANKEN: Yes. KLEIN: Ah, did you tell them that Joe Conason was gonna be on? FRANKEN: Well, your publisher should have told you, because I, I, I coul dn't have emphasized it more. I said, you know, Joe, I, we must have di scussed this, ah, the publisher's name, again, is Adrian -- KLEIN: Zackheim. Well, he didn't discuss it with me, but in any case, in the interest of full disclosure, don't you think you should tell your, ah, audience where Joe has stood on this book, what -- what he's done up t o now? There are critics of the book th at are even, like John Podhoretz on the right. He writes, "This is one of the most sordid volumes I' ve ever waded through. And 200 pages into it, I wanted someone to drive stakes through my eyes so I wouldn't hav e to suffer through another word." Now this is a conservative, and I go tta say that it wasn't that bad. CONASON: Yeah, I've gotten, actually, I have to say, more positive mail from conservatives about my column about this book in the Observer than I have from, from right-wingers in a long time. FRANKEN: But I'm sorry that Adrian didn't tell you, because you should h ave known that, but that's really your publisher's fault. LANPHER: And we were getting back to a question that was asked right bef ore the break about just how conscious you were of putting deception in the book. KLEIN: -- and if I've left out, as I said, an ellipsis, I'm sorry. Ah, let's talk about the FBI files that you talk about, sor t of what was called "Filegate." And you call it the "Purloined FBI Fil es," and you write about it on page 39. FRANKEN: Now, you know that she was absolved of this by the Office of In dependent Counsel. KLEIN: Well, she may -- FRANKEN: I mean, shouldn't you have written about that? Shouldn't you ha ve given that information to your readers? KLEIN: It's still my -- it's still my belief and contention that Craig L ivingstone was responsible for taking those files, and that he was oper ating under direct orders from Hillary. I mean, did you ever look a t the names of the people whose files they were? KLEIN: They were a lot of Republican activists -- CONASON: There were not, actually. Can -- name one Republ ican activist whose file was taken. KLEIN: I couldn't do that 'cause I -- CONASON: You couldn't! Ah, you've never looked at the names, but you know they'r e a lot of Republican activists. How would you know that if you've neve r looked at the names? KLEIN: I've read it in The New York Times and other publications. FRANKEN: You know, Ed, the first -- CONASON: Because the people whose names were on that list were former Wh ite House employees. Most of them were people like gardeners and janito rs and people like that. I've looked at every name on that list -- KLEIN: Former White House employees -- CONASON: That's correct. CONASON: There were -- KLEIN: Are you saying there weren't? CONASON: No, I'm saying there was no, there were no Republican activists of any note on that list. If you look through that list, it's hundreds of names of people that you h... |