6/30 A really good friend of mine got married 2 years ago. I was his
best man. At first, we still contacted each other, but gradually,
he got busier with his wife and more and more involved with his
wife's [retiring] parents' business. His wife's parents also live
with them every weekend. I mean it is cool and all, but I find
him to be a lot more flaky than ever. It was getting harder and
harder to reach him because he was always busy doing something
outside of work, for his wife's parents' properties like
receiving/cashing rent from tenants, fixing up pipes, calling
for electricans, etc. Last year he also had a baby, and according
to him he doesn't even see the baby 4 out of 7 days because he's
so busy, so he leaves the baby with his wife's parents on week days.
This year I have an extremely difficult time just to say helo to
him. I can't even get past the phone-- his wife ALWAYS picks up the
phone, and we'd have to go through 1/2 hour of small talk before
I can reach him. Even his wife knows more about what I've been
doing in the past few months than him because of this. And just 3
weeks ago I left his wife a message but he just never responded.
I wrote him an email and a week later he gave me this lame excuse
that his SIM card broke and lost my number so he couldn't call back.
I gave him my phone # via email but he never responded or call back.
All I wanted was to say hi to him and see what he has been up to
in the past few months without hearing it from his wife. It's like,
after you get married, you're better than everyone else because
you're too in love or something so you don't have to talk to
anyone else. Is this common with married people?
\_ I'm the op. Let me add that she controls all of his
actions, from who he gets to hang out with to who he can talk
to on the phone. I get especially annoyed when she sits by him
whenever we talk so that she can hear what he's talking about and
butt in our private conversation. She controls the entire family
budget and has the final say on every purchase. He has a high
paying job but hates it. Early this year he reached a new low in
his career but his wife somehow convinced him that he should
be safe and stick to it to pay for the house they could barely
afford, and for the sake of his new kid. The thing I can never
forget, is that his wife refused to let him have any bachelor's
party. I may as well add at this point that while he's a liberal,
she's one of the most stubborn Bush supporters and he would not
bring up any political discussion at the dinner table because he
may end up sleeping on the couch that night. The weirdest thing
is that he actually tells me that he enjoys his wife giving him
directions. I've never heard "Yes dear" so willingly, and so
frequently from a big grown man, without any objection or
opinions. He used to be outgoing and outspoken, and now I don't
know who he is. I no longer consider him a friend. Life goes on -op
\_ I think the phenomenon of some guys getting completely pwn3d
by their significant other is fairly common. They're so grateful
for the nookie or whatever.
\_ yes. - married & isolated.
\_ Is this what you highly desire or just a consequence of
being married? Do you or your wife want to know or share
every bit of privacy you used to have? How do you feel?
\_ more like, this is just what happens... life gets busy.
I can't imagine how much worse it would get w/a baby.
\_ Dude, people drift apart. It happens. -John
\_ You can't expect a married man to have the free time any more,
especially when he has a baby/kid. - a married man with baby
\_ My wife went back to Japan for a month last summer to help out
her parents. I was amazed at how much socializing time I suddenly
had. After she came back, I was amazed at how little I missed
having socializing time. Time is indeed relative. Your best bet
is to keep making the effort and just remember that he has a lot
more on his schedule these days. --erikred
\_ My wife and I are now working on maintaining one social dinner
a week with friends. Just doing that has required ridiculous
effort and forward-planning and we don't even have a kid. Well,
might not. We haven't checked in a couple weeks. -- ulysses
\_ I remember reading an article where it says that men tend to
stop socializing and keeping and making new friends after
getting married, and becomes more and more isolated, whereas
it isn't true for women. So married men tend to have fewer and
fewer people whom they can talk to and confide in as they
get older. The article thinks it's unhealthy.
\_ If I were the bdg I'd say something to the effect that the
article says marriage is bad for men, PERIOD.
\_ Did the article take into account online friends?
\_ I think this is pretty true for me. My wife stays home to
take care of the baby, and I go sit in front of a computer
all day. Having a baby actually encourages one to get out
of the house because the baby likes to go out, and friends
can entertain and help watch the kid. Computers are
isolating, and when I get home, she wants together time.
So, yeah, I don't really socialize anymore.
\_ But they say married men live longer than single men.
\_ perhaps the comparison is with married women and
with married men at their earlier pre-marital stage of life.
basically the gist of the article is that for men, most
of their closest friends were made before they got married,
then there is a sharp dropoff. it wasn't comparing
married and unmarried men.
\_ You missed the second half of the sentence: "...... but
married men are a lot more willing to die." Google for it.
\_ Wow, I just posted a long and thoughtful answer but some dickwad
deleted it. Thanks asshole.
\- what exactly are you complaining about? your friend becoming
a ball-less bitch to his in-laws? the wife having some ulter-
ior motives? your friend changing preferences in how to spend
his time? it sure seems weird to "complain" the wife enjoys
speaking to you on the phone. based on the language you use
above, you seem to have some issues. i have close friends
i hardly see any more (due to kids, wife etc) but when we do
the depth of the friendship is still there. the only thing that
has caused tension is my radicalization due to Greater BUSHCOs
cockroach like activities. oh and he may have an inkling that
i dont like his wife (she wont make small talk. she spends all
her time making petty complaints or braggings about how
wonderful and cool her life is). |