Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 38327
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2005/6/28 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38327 Activity:moderate
6/27    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1669640,00.html
        "The American general who commanded allied air forces during the Iraq
        war appears to have admitted in a briefing to American and British
        officers that coalition aircraft waged a secret air war against Iraq
        from the middle of 2002, nine months before the invasion began."
        \_ Oh... shocker! Let's go in when the enemy has some advantage.
           \_ Have you seen the memos?  Y'know, the ones that said we'd need
              to find some way to make the war legal.  That said maybe we
              could provoke a causus belli by pressing the Hussein regime.
           \_ let's bomb random countries!
        \_ I thought we'd been bombing them for years as they fired SAMs at our
           aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone.
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www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1669640,00.html
The Times and The Sunday Times electronic paper The Times and The Sunday Times electronic paper The Sunday Times - Britain June 26, 2005 General admits to secret air war Michael Smith THE American general who commanded allied air forces during the Iraq war appears to have admitted in a briefing to American and British officers that coalition aircraft waged a secret air war against Iraq from the mid dle of 2002, nine months before the invasion began. Addressing a briefing on lessons learnt from the Iraq war Lieutenant-Gene ral Michael Moseley said that in 2002 and early 2003 allied aircraft fle w 21,736 sorties, dropping more than 600 bombs on 391 carefully selecte d targets before the war officially started. The nine months of allied raids laid the foundations for the allied vic tory, Moseley said. They ensured that allied forces did not have to star t the war with a protracted bombardment of Iraqi positions. If those raids exceeded the need to maintain security in the no-fly zones of southern and northern Iraq, they would leave President George W Bush and Tony Blair vulnerable to allegations that they had acted illegally. Moseleys remarks have emerged after reports in The Sunday Times that sho wed an increase in allied bombing in southern Iraq was described in leak ed minutes of a meeting of the war cabinet as spikes of activity to put pressure on the regime. Moseley told the briefing at Nellis airbase in Nebraska on July 17, 2003, that the raids took place under cover of patrols of the southern no-fly zone; their purpose was ostensibly to protect the ethnic minorities. A leaked memo previously disclosed by The Sunday Times, detailing a meeti ng chaired by the prime minister and attended by Jack Straw, the foreign secretary, Geoff Hoon, the then defence secretary, and Admiral Sir Mich ael Boyce, chief of defence staff, indicated that the US was carrying ou t the bombing. But Moseleys remarks, and figures for the amount of bombs dropped in sou thern Iraq during 2002, indicate that the RAF was taking as large a part in the bombing as American aircraft. Details of the Moseley briefing come amid rising concern in the US at the war. A new poll shows 60% of Americans now believe it was a mistake.