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2005/6/19-20 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:38197 Activity:moderate
6/19    Before Oct 2004, had you heard of "The Lancet"?
        Yes: ...
        No: .
        What is "The Lancet?": ..
        I don't give a shit about politics, let's talk about Linux: .
        \- If you had not heard of The Lancet, that says more about you
           than "The Lancet" ... that is "their" NEJM or JAMA.
           \_ Oh wise and noble partha, please enlighten us unwashed
              masses on why we ought to be spending time reading some
              medical journal in the uk?
              \- i am not saying you need to read The Lancet or the
                 economist ... just that if you havent, that doesnt
                 suggest they are obscure publications. the fact that
                 say sephen hawking has not won the nobel prize doesnt
                 reflect badly on his importance as a physicist. and were
                 he to win one day, his reputation will not change one
                 bit. maybe you didn not know Yale has one of the best
                 law schools in the country, but this probably would not
                 surprise you. it may surprise you to learn rutgers has
                 one of the best philosophy depts around ... however that
                 doesnt meant rutgers/phil isnt a strong dept. "the lancet"
                 along with nature, science, cell, NEJM, JAMA is one of the
                 "standards".
                 \_ Actually, ed is the standard, but Partha's 100% correct.
                    This is just the sort of thing you should know as part of
                    a 100% complete breakfast, sorry.  -John
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