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6/13    What is the cheapest way to get 3 or 4 arguably legal
        copies of winXP, preferable with SP2 ?  Also, how much
        do extra terminal licenses cost? tnx.
        \_ OEM licenses are cheaper but you can't move them to a different
           machine once you activate it.  (OEM licenses are what you get when
           you buy a new Dell, etc.)
           Standard licenses (non-OEM) are more expensive but you can move them
           to different computers.
           There's also subscription-based licensing, but I don't think those
           pay off until you reach x number of computers (not sure what x is).
           See prices on http://newegg.com.
           \_ How about subscribing to MSDN and use the XP CD included?
              \_ http://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/faq/default.aspx
        \_ You can also get an Academic Upgrade version from http://newegg.com for
           $85.  Technically you're using it for sk00l, but all you need
           is a Win2K or perhaps Win98/WinME CD-ROM to insert during the
           install process.  At the end you get a bona-fide (Academic) CD key
           registered in the MS database.  I don't recommend that if you're
           buying for a real business.
        \_ talk to someone that works at microsoft. win xp pro is $30
           at the company store.
           \_ Didn't an MS employee end up drinking anti-freeze for getting
              caught doing too much of that?
              \_ decades ago, my friend who work in M$ told me that they
                 have quota of one software title per employee per year, 90%
                 off market price.  Having said that, no one buys it
                 because they end up burn them from the archive anyway.
                 \_ my friend worked there 3-4 years ago and could buy stuff
                    with a limit of maybe $150 or $200 on how much he could
                    spend per year. After he left he was part of a 'microsoft
                    alumni' program that let him do basically the same thing
                    even though he wasn't working there anymore. I got two
                    copies of xp home through him for $10 each. I would have
                    bought more but he blew the rest of his "allowance" on
                    xbox games.
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