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6/9     Previously unknown Bach aria found:
        http://edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/08/bach.ap/index.html
        \_ Nice except most Amerikaners don't know the difference between an
           aria and a sonata. Heck most people don't even know the difference
                      \_ One's a Hyundai, or something.
           between Baroque, Classical, and Romantic music. And they certainly
           don't know the difference between Bach and Rach(maninoff). How
           pathetic can they get? The only culture they ever get is from
           eating yogurt, and maybe some culture from unfiltered beer while
           watching football and basketball games, while waiving
           patriotic Amerikan flags and praising George W. Bush.
           \_ I bet you don't know what the difference between
              synecdoche and metonomy is either off the top of your head.
                             \_ metonymy?
              Or for a closer reference, you probably don't know the
              difference between bebop and jazz.
              Oh no, you're a chimp!
              \_ You've been trolled. Not very smart are you?
              \- E_RATCHET
              \_ If I hear it on 91.1 and it gives me headache, it's bebop.  If
                 I hear it on 91.1 but no headache, it's jazz. :-)
           \_ I think you are trolling but do you really think in order
              to appreciate a musical composition you need this sort of
              knowledge? (I'm not sure, but wasn't a lot of "classical"
              music original designed for a lay audience who wouldn't
              have had this type of knowledge - no more so than the ave.
              NASCAR fan of today)
           \_ I think you are trolling but do you really think this
              knowledge really relevant in order to appreciate a
              musical composition?
              \_ "Classical" music was generally commissioned by either the
                 monied class or the church.  Joe Q Laborer wouldn't be going
                 to the concert hall, but if he was lucky there was a good
                 organist at his church.  "Classical," though, in your usage
                 here, would cover a long period of time.  In fact, Bach is
                 baroque.
                 \_ The classifications into Baroque, Classical and Romantic
                    is based on the century in which the composer lived right?
                    Baroque is something like early 1700s, Classical is late
                    1700s/early 1800s and Romantic is 1800s right?
                    I don't really know/care, but I can't really figure out
                    I'd don't really know/care, but I can't really figure out
                    how knowing this particular piece of trivia makes the
                    music more beautiful.
                    \_ Baroque, classical, and romantic music aren't
                       partitioned arbitrarily by the time of composition
                       as you suggested.  There are quite distinct stylistic
                       differences.
           \_ BART aria?  What?
              \_ There's this really annoying hippy chick that walks up and
                 down the length of BART trains going through the transbay
                 tube at commute hours.  She waves around a cup spare changing
                 while singing scales at extremely high volume.  What's weird
                 is that I've seen her do it three or four times now, and
                 she always gets lots of money - it seems like there's always
                 a bunch of suckers who think its some kind of spontaneous
                 display of creativity.  I guess that would qualify as a "BART
                 aria."
                 \_ It's also possible they just think she's insane.
                    \_ "Do not offer sympathy to the mentally ill."
                        - WS Burroughs
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edition.cnn.com/2005/SHOWBIZ/Music/06/08/bach.ap/index.html
BERLIN, Germany (AP) -- Experts have discovered a previously unknown work by Johann Sebastian Bach in documents taken from a German library short ly before it was heavily damaged by fire, researchers said Wednesday. It was believed to be the first new Bach work to surface in 30 years. Researcher Michael Maul found the aria, dated October 1713, in May in the eastern city of Weimar, the Bach Archiv foundation said on its Web site . There was no doubt about the authenticity of the handwritten, two-page sc ore, the Leipzig-based foundation said. Maul said it was the first Bach work to come to light since 1975, when a copy of the "Goldberg Variations" in a private collection was found to c ontain extra canons for piano in the composer's own handwriting. The las t previously unknown vocal work by Bach to surface was in 1935, when the single-movement cantata fragment "Bekennen will ich seinen Namen" was d iscovered, the foundation said. "The find is a well-rounded composition -- not a major work, but a casual piece of superior quality," the foundation said of the aria. The foundation's director, Christoph Wolff, said the work, written when B ach was 28, was among documents taken from the Duchess Anna Amalia libra ry for restoration before September's fire. "Otherwise the work would have been consumed by the flames and we would n ever have known of its existence," Wolff said. The library, housed in a 16th-century rococo palace, reopened in February . Bach composed the work for a soprano, to be accompanied by strings or a h arpsichord, to mark the 52nd birthday of the duke of Saxony-Weimar, for whom he worked as a court organist, the foundation said. A solo soprano was to sing a 12-verse poem beginning with the duke's mott o "Everything with God and nothing without him" written by Johann Anton Mylius, it said. The work was Bach's only known strophic aria, in which several stanzas ar e set to the same music, and the precise date made it valuable to resear chers studying the development of the German composer's style, the found ation said. It was not clear if it was played at the time, but the foundation said En glish conductor Sir John Eliot Gardiner is preparing to record it. Gardiner last month received a medal in recognition of his performance of Bach music from the Saxony city of Leipzig, where Bach was cantor of St . Germany's Baerenreiter publishing house plans to publish the composition in the fall.