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6/2 When women drive, evil thrives.
http://csua.org/u/c8z
\_ The Saudis are half right. Now if they could just ban men from
driving cars also, they'd be on to something.
\_ Then they'll have more oil to export. Good for us, good for
them.
\_ Actually they're on to something. Men are more likely to get into
an accident, but they also drive twice as far. Mile for mile, women
are 2X more likely to get into an accident. I can attribute this to
the fact that every time I see someone driving recklessly, it is
a female driver talking on the cell phone while doing make-up. I
also have observations on drivers over 80 years old and immigrant
drivers, but I'll save them later.
\_ WTF do you mean by "immigrant"? Asian backwoods folks? Or Russians?
\_ BS. Where do you get these figures? If driving longer, does
that mean highway (safer) miles? Most accidents happen near the
home and in city/local driving...doesnt mean shit.
\_ BS? http://christianparty.net/mvfr.htm Endorsed by Jesus.
\_ This site is just amazing... Wow. No really, wow.
\_ http://christianparty.net/talmud.htm
Haha! There are some real gems on that site.
I especially love the claim that hybrids are more
susceptible to disease. Or, heck, the claim that
the Celto-Saxons (?) are the true Israelites.
Man, I can just go on and on. Whoever pasted this
link, thanks! -- ilyas
\_ What's a Talmud? It's too long to read. Also,
are you Jewish? What is Balaam?
\- it is a guide for the perplexed.
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| csua.org/u/c8z -> news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050602/ap_on_re_mi_ea/saudi_women_behind_the_wheel AP Saudis Outraged Over Women-Drive Proposal By DONNA ABU-NASR, Associated Press Writer Thu Jun 2, 1:56 PM ET RIYADH, Saudi Arabia - He just wanted his colleagues in the government's legislative arm to discuss the possibility of conducting a study into th e feasibility of reversing the ban on women drivers the only prohibiti on of its kind in the world. But Consultative Council member Mohammad al-Zulfa's proposal has unleashe d a storm in this conservative country where the subject of women driver s remains taboo. Al-Zulfa's cell phone now constantly rings with furious Saudis accusing h im of encouraging women to commit the double sins of discarding their ve ils and mixing with men. He gets phone text messages calling on Allah to freeze his blood. Chat rooms bristle with insulting accusations that al -Zulfa is "driven by carnal instincts with 454 horsepower." There even have been calls to kick al-Zulfa from the council and strip hi m of his Saudi nationality. But in Saudi Arabia, where the religious establishment has the upper hand in defining women's freedoms , the issue touches on the kingdom's strict Islamic lifestyle. Conservatives, who believe women should be shielded from strange men, say driving will allow a woman to leave home whenever she pleases and go wh erever she wishes. Some say it will present her with opportunities to vi olate Islamic law, such as exposing her eyes while driving or interactin g with strange men, like police officers or mechanics. "Driving by women leads to evil," Munir al-Shahrani wrote in a letter to the editor of the Al-Watan daily. "Can you imagine what it will be like if her car broke down? But al-Zulfa contends neither the law nor Islam bans women from driving. Instead, the ban is based on fatwas, or Islamic edicts, by senior cleric s who say that any driving by women would create situations for sinful t emptation. It is the same argument used to restrict other freedoms. Without written permission from a male guardian, women may not travel, get an education or work. Regardless of permission, they are not allowed to mix with men in public or leave home without wearing black cloaks, called abayas. Iraq 's invasion of Kuwait were jailed for one day, their passports were con fiscated and they lost their jobs. The driving prohibition has forced families to hire live-in drivers, who, strangely, are allowed to be alone with women. Al-Zulfa said clerics ha ve deemed this a lesser evil than driving. Women whose families cannot a fford to pay $300 to $400 a month for drivers rely on male relatives to take them around. Al-Zulfa brought up the issue a month ago in an open session of the Consu ltative Council, an appointed body that acts like a parliament. The session focused on a new traffic law, and the Council members were di scussing government statistics about more than 5,000 traffic deaths each year. They also were discussing the fact that the large number of forei gn drivers about 1 million have economic repercussions. "I know that talking about women driving is taboo, so I decided to take a dvantage of our discussions to bring up the topic," said the Western-edu cated al-Zulfa. Al-Zulfa, 61, said he proposed that a study be conducted to review the is sue, arguing that allowing women behind the wheel would save Saudis both money and lives since he believes women are cautious drivers. Al-Zulfa suggested that only women over age 35 or 40 be allowed to drive and only in cities. On highways, he said, they could drive if accompanie d by male guardians. Al-Zulfa put the proposal in writing and sent it to the council's preside ncy so it can appoint a date for discussing it. But apparently worried a bout the conservatives' reaction, council head, Sheik Saleh bin Humaid, has not responded. Despite the harsh outcry, not all the reaction has been negative. Abdulrahman al-Rashed, a Saudi who is general manager of Al-Arabiya telev ision, wrote in a recent column in Asharq al-Awsat paper: "It's inconcei vable that in a country of 25 million, a third of them are women who wai t for a driver every day to take them to school, the hospital and relati ves' homes." Many women activists also welcomed al-Zulfa's suggestion. But others lash ed out at him for using the issue to project himself as a reformer. In a strongly worded article, Wajiha al-Huweidar said Saudi women will no t allow "the intellectuals to shine and their names to glitter at our ex pense. "We will not permit anyone and we have not appointed anyone to speak on o ur behalf," she said. The informati on contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewr itten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associ ated Press. |
| christianparty.net/mvfr.htm stateid=0&year=1999 reports that Amer ican men who drink and drive are one fourteenth as likely to have a fata l accident as American women who don't drink at all. other vehicles which don 't contribute to highway mileage. This adjustment in creases the accident rate for women from 38% higher than men to 48% high er. The known lower average hand/eye coordination, SAT scores, work ethics, a nd employee competence as measured by lower incomes, of blacks and women , should cause a just society to seriously reconsider the impact that su ch drivers are predicted to have on such a high MVFR over the next three decades. The annual odds of an American being killed in a traffic acci dent is 1 in 6,314, whereas for a German it is 1 in 9,346, and for an En glishman it is 1 in 17,857. The annual odds of an American driver being involved in a fatal accident are 1 in 4,503, for a German driver are 1 in 6,676, and for an Englishman are 1 in 12,755. Both Germany and Engla nd have no or very high speed limits, in contrast to 55 to 65 mph in the US, and 70% of German drivers openly acknowledge that they drink and dr ive, which is proof that our accident rate can be reduced, and that neit her the speed limits nor drinking and driving laws are the way to do it: Pfafferott (1993) surveyed the self-reported drinking-driving attitudes and behaviours and found that over 60% of former East Germans reported to never drive under the influence of alcohol, compared to under 30% of the West Germans. have the lowest fatality rate in the US, at 31 fatal accidents per b illion miles driven. Conversely, if only black women drove there would be 54,946 more fatalities, if only black men drove there would be 26,696 more, and if o nly White women drove there would be 9,040 more. The fact that both blacks and women drive in both Germany and England sug gests that there is more involved than their higher propensity to have a fatal accident, but Autobahns in Germany look much like our freeways (s ince our freeways were copied after the Autobahn concept). With no speed limits, with cars d riving literally 120 miles per hour, with much worse weather than most p arts of the US, with a population density more than 8 times greater ( 59 0 inhabitants per square mile in Germany vs. ours of 72), with much moun tainous terrain, the German motor vehicle fatality rate is consistently lower than ours, which by itself disproves the cynical hypotheses that " speed kills" or "drunk drivers are a menace to society". With the high population density of Germany, it's not too hard to understand how traf fic congestion would build up pretty fast if they drove only 55 mph, whi ch provides insight into why Germany has such a low MVFR. "paradox" is an example of Americans discovering that the Autobahns they copied from Germany DO work as intended, when they are u sed as they were originally designed--for high speed and low congestion, which of course go hand in hand. The cynical hypotheses that a driver in his own car seeing the road and cars around him isn't as good a decis ion maker about how to operate his own car as a judge sitting on a woode n bench in a remote location, under fluorescent lights, all day, is not only not supported by the data: it is repugnant to the US Constitution. Bureaucrats and lawmakers must think that as soon as a responsible cit izen gets into his car, he suddenly becomes a child who has to have bure aucrats making decisions for him which even children are capable of maki ng in their own sand boxes without the aid of the law. Montana, Germany, and England are proof that citizens are not that childi sh and judges are not that smart. They are living proof that the cynici sm that buried the US under a mountain of laws is unwarranted at the lea st, and are most likely part of the problem. Understanding statistics like these from Montana require just a LITTLE kn owledge of algebra, and probability and statistics and reveals that NHTS A data paints an entirely different picture of highway safety than the " mainstream media" wants us to know. htm might be of interest to anyone who is curious about this. This, by itself, should make curious , thinking citizens question the feminist mantra that "drinking drivers cause accidents", even before considering what percentage of Americans d rink and drive. gif (21950 bytes) Overall, women drivers are 38% more likely per mile driven to have a fata l traffic accident, but when pedestrian, snow mobile, farm and construct ion machinery, go cart, motor cycle, and other high risk, low highway mi leage vehicle accidents are removed, that increases to 46% more. This h igher accident rate of women increases the accident rate for men by 28%, so if only men drove all the miles currently driven by both men and wom en, the fatal accident rate per billion miles would be 23 and the total number of fatal accidents on the highways would be 34,500, which is 15,4 25 or 31% fewer fatal accidents. |
| christianparty.net/talmud.htm is raised from the dead and being punished in boiling hot semen. Those who mock the words of the Jewish sages and sin against Isra el are boiled in hot excrement, 57a Gittin Christians! It is impossible to collect from these writings a consistent series of moral Doctrine... It was the reformation of this wretched depravity' of moral s which Jesus undertook." prophecy, by Benjamin Franklin, was made in a "CHIT CHAT AROUND THE TABLE DURING INTERMISSION," at the Philadelphia Constitutional Conv ention of 1787. Their ideas do not conform to an American's, and will not even thou they live among us ten generations. Jews are Asiatics, are a menace to this country if permitted entrance, and sh ould be excluded by this Constitutional Convention. belong to your father, the devil, and you want to ca rry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. Adolf Hitler Mein Kampf "When thus, for the first time, I recognized the Jew as the coldhearted, shameless, and calculating director of this revolting vice traffic in th e scum of the big city, a cold shudder ran down my back." concentration camp that beat me daily, using a heavy wooden baton they called 'Herr Doktor' (The Doctor) were both fellow Prisoners, both were Jewish, one from Hungary and the other was, I believe, a Ukrainian." "The Talmud Unmasked, The Secret Rabbinical Tea chings Concerning Christians," was written by Rev. IB Pranaitis, Maste r of Theology and Professor of the Hebrew Language at the Imperial Eccle siastical Academy of the Roman Catholic Church in Old St. Pranaitis was the greatest of the students of the Talmud. His complete command of the Hebrew language qualified him to analyze th e Talmud as few men in history. Pranaitis scrutinized the Talmud for p assages referring to Jesus, Christians and the Christian faith. Hebrew lends itself to transla tion into Latin better than it does directly into English. The translati on of the passages of the Talmud referring to Jesus, Christians and Chri stian faith were printed in Latin by the Imperial Academy of Sciences in St. Petersburg in 1893 with the Imprimatur of his Archbishop. The trans lation from the Latin into English was made by great Latin scholars in t he United States in 1939 with funds provided by wealthy Americans for th at purpose. In order not to leave any loose ends on the sub ject of the Talmud's reference to Jesus, to Christians and to the Christ ian faith I will below summarize translations into English from the Lati n texts of Rev. Pranaitis' "The Talmud Unmasked, The Secret Rabbinical T eachings Concerning Christians". It would require too much space to quot e these passages verbatim with their foot-notes form the Soncino Edition in English. P ranaitis referring to Jesus in the Talmud in the original texts translat ed by him into Latin, and from Latin into English: Sanhedrin, 67a -- Jesus referred to as the son of Pandira, a soldier Kallah, 1b. Birth re lated in most shameful expressions Abhodah Zarah II -- Referred to as the son of Pandira, a Roman soldier. Sanhedrin, 43a -- On the eve of Passover they hanged Jesus. Schabbath, 104b -- Called a fool and no one pays attention to fools. Zohar III, (282) -- Died like a beast and buried in animal's dirt heap. Hilkoth Melakhim -- Attempted to prove Christians err in worship of Jesus Abhodah Zarah, 21a -- Reference to worship of Jesus in homes unwanted. Orach Chaiim, 113 -- Avoid appearance of paying respect to Jesus. Iore dea, 150,2 -- Do not appear to pay respect to Jesus by accident. The above are a few selected from a very compli cated arrangement in which many references are obscured by intricate rea soning. The following are a few summarized references to Christians and the Christian faith although not always expressed in exactly that manner . There are eleven names used in the Talmud for non-Talmud followers, by which Christians are meant. Besides Nostrim, from Jesus the Nazarene, C hristians are called by all the names used in the Talmud to designate al l non-"Jews": Minim, Edom, Abhodan Zarah, Akum. Obhde Elilim, Nokrim, Am me Haarets, Kuthim, Apikorosim, and Goim. Besides supplying the names by which Christians are called in the Talmud, the passages quoted below in dicate what kind of people the Talmud pictures the Christians to be, and what the Talmud says about the religious worship of Christians: Hilkhoth Maakhaloth -- Christians are idolators, must not associate. Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood. Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals . Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals. Schabbath (145b) -- Christians unclean because they eat accordingly Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai . Kerithuth (6b p 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men. Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian. Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons. Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always. Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs. Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses. Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast. Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass. Eben Haezar (44,8) -- Marriages between Christian and Jews null. Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially. Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent. Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world. Emek Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews' souls come from death and death's shado w Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins. Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell. Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men. Abhodah Zarah (14b) T -- Forbidden to sell religious works to Christians Abhodah Zarah (78) -- Christian churches are places of idolatry. Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches. Iore Dea (142, 15) -- Must not listen to church music or look at idols Iore Dea (143, 1) -- Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches. Zar (10b) -- Jews must not resell broken chalices to Christi ans. Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share. Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God. Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits. Gittin (62a) -- Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays. Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses. Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian. Iore dea (178, 1) -- Never imitate customs of Christians, even hair-comb. Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away. Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away. Abhodah Zarah (2a) -- For three days before Christian festivals, avoid al l Abhodah Zarah (78c) -- Festivals of followers of Jesus regarded as idolat ry. Iore Dea (139, 1) -- Avoid things used by Christians in their worship. Abhodah Zarah (14b) -- Forbidden to sell Christians articles for worship. Iore Dea (151,1) H -- Do not sell water to Christians articles for bapti sms. Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) -- Do not trade with Christians on their feast days . Abhodah Zarah (1,2) -- Now permitted to trade with Christians on such day s Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to p ay. Iore Dea (148, 5) -- If Christian is not devout, may send him gifts. Hilkoth Akum (IX,2) -- Send gifts to Christians only if they are irreligi ous. Iore Dea (81,7 Ha) -- Christian wet-nurses to be avoided because dangerou s Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy. Peaschim (25a) -- Avoid medical help from idolators, Christians meant. Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews. Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead. Hilkoth Akum (X,6) -- Help needy Christians if it will promote peace. Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred ... |
| www.scienceagogo.com/news/19980516133725data_trunc_sys.shtml According to a con troversial study by researchers at the John Hopkins Schools of Medicine and Public Health, women are more likely to be involved in car crashes t han men - despite the fact that men are three times more likely to be ki lled when they do crash. As reported in the June issue of Epidemiology, American women were involv ed in 57 crashes per million miles driven. Men, on the other hand, cloc ked up just 51 crashes per million miles. Given the fact that men drive an estimated 74 per cent more miles per year than women, the figure is surprising indeed. "Although risk-taking behaviours may contribute to the excessive injury m ortality among men and younger drivers, up to now age and sex discrepanc ies in death rates from motor vehicle crashes have not been well underst ood," says lead author Guohua Li, associate professor of emergency medic ine. Using crash statistics gathered by the Fatal Accident Reporting System, t he General Estimates System and the Nationwide Personal Transportation S urvey, the researchers developed an innovative method called "decomposit ion" to break down the data into new categories and weigh the relative c ontribution of three variables: crash fatality, incidence density (numbe r of crashes per million miles) and exposure prevalence (annual average miles driven per driver). Until now, the death rate ratio has always bee n based on just two factors: fatality and accident rates. The investigators discovered that teenage boys start recklessly, with abo ut 20 per cent more crashes per mile driven than teenage girls. Males an d females between the ages of 20 and 35 run almost identical risks. Fema les over the age of 35, however, are significantly more likely to crash than their male counterparts. Each year, motor vehicle crashes in America claim a staggering 40,000 liv es, cause three million injuries and cost the nation $140 billion. Sci Shop Peculiar scientific stuff that you didn't even know existed, which you do n't need, but which, if fortune smiles upon us, you'll still go ahead an d buy anyway. |