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2005/5/25-27 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Israel] UID:37830 Activity:moderate
5/25    Help rebuild the Gaza home that Rachel Corrie gave her life to defend.
        Our special guests:
        Cindy and Craig Corrie - Rachel's parents
        Samah and Khaled Nasrallah - The Palestinian family whose home
        Rachel was trying to protect
        Friday, June 10
        7:30 p.m.
        First Presbyterian Church
        1140 Cowper Street, Palo Alto
        $10 - $20 sliding scale - Wheelchair accessible
        A portion of the proceeds from this event will be used to rebuild the
        Nasrallah Family's home, then the next home and the next in Gaza,
        where 3100 Palestinian homes have been demolished.
                                \_ The report also states that the army had\
                                   not, in fact, intended to demolish a house,
                                   but was searching for explosives in the
                                   border area designated a security zone or
                                   "no man's land" by Israel. No houses were
                                   demolished on the day of Corrie's death,
                                   but one of the houses she believed she was
                                   protecting the home of pharmacist Dr.
                                   Samid Nasrallah was damaged six months
                                   later when the IDF knocked a hole in
                                   one of its walls. The IDF eventually
                                   demolished the house in January 2004,
                                   according to the charity Rebuilding
                                   Alliance, because it stood in the security
                                   zone.
                                   No tunnel. It was simply in the "security
                                   zone." The whole tunnel defence is merely
                                   a lie the apologists made up after the fact.
        \_ Minor language point: I'd say she "lost" her life. She didn't
           really intend to give it up.
        \_ Why would anyone want to donate to a people who actively resent
           the U.S.? I don't get it. If they want to get the U.S. out of
           the Mid-East, why would they take our money? That's like giving
           a quarter to a bum and having him spit in your face in return.
           \_ "I" am not "the U.S". So the analogy does not hold.
              \_ So you are not part of the U.S.? What else are you not part
                 of, the species Homo Sapiens? What the hell...
                 \_ I live in the U.S., but I'm not responsible for U.S.
                    middle east policy and in many cases I disagree with it
                    and understand some of the resentment. I don't apply
                    judgement based only on set membership. I don't judge
                    all Palestinians the same either as you appear to do.
           \_ When I visited there, people seemed pretty nice to me and
              a couple of complete strangers invited me into their homes
              to eat after just a few minutes of conversation. "They" might
              not like the U.S. but they liked me just fine. The U.S.
              does a pretty piss poor job of representing me throughout
              the world, to tell you the truth, especially these last
              five years.
        \_ Will it include a tunnel for smuggling weapons?  You know, just to
           be accurate.
           \_ No tunnel was ever found under Nasrallah's home or ever even
              accused of being there:
              http://rafahpundits.com/2005/03/from-the-nasrallahs
              http://csua.org/u/c6m
              \_ Yeah, a few blogs really prove anything.  Checking for stories
                 in the past, I can't find anything reliable which states there
                 was a tunnel or not.
                 \_ link:tinyurl.com/cww2a is a link to an editorial in the
                    Jerusalem post that claims there were no tunnels found
                    under the home that was about to be bulldozed.  I find it
                    interesting that the IDF didn't finish bulldozing the house
                    until 6 months after Corrie's death (according to the
                    article). - danh
                    \_ Learn to format to 80 cols danh.
                    \_ "Today, March 16, marks the one-year anniversary of the
                       killing of our friend and colleague Rachel Corrie."
                       That sounds like a real unbiased source.
                        \_ hey i did hunt around a lot, and I couldn't find
                           anything authoritative that claimed that
                           there was a nest of palestinian weapon smuggling
                           tunnels under the house, I also think the IDF's
                           policy of bulldozing orchards and houses just
                           creates more problems later. - danh
                       \_ You're the one who claimed they would need a
                          smuggling tunnel to be accurate.  How 'bout you put
                          up some evidence that that's true.  Or how 'bout you
                          just fuck off.
                          \_ Yeah, this is pretty funny, they are trying
                             to get you to prove a negative.
                             \_ The IDF said there was a tunnel.  There has
                                been no credible rebuttal.
                                \_ Because they're SO unbiased...
                                   \_ Didn't say they were unbiased, but
                                      they're the ones who would say why they
                                      were performing the operation.  If
                                      someone's going to say there's no tunnel,
                                      it'd be nice if they'd say how they know
                                      that.
                                      \_ Do you have a like for the IDF
                                      \_ Do you have a link for the IDF
                                         statement?
                                         \_ Yeah, their penis is so big and
                                            foreskin free.
                                \_ No, the IDF never said that. You are just
                                   making shit up to try and make yourself
                                   feel better.
                 \_ "Don't believe the news, it's controlled by Jews!"
                    -Berkeley protesters. (no joke)
        \_ did she get a Darwin award for this one?
        \_ Person vs. Bulldozer.
           \_ Cf. Person vs. Tank, Tiananman Square, 6/4/89.
                                   \_ If you stfw for "corrie +idf +tunnel"
                                      you'll be hard-pressed to find anything
                                      that even remotely purports to not be
                                      a propaganda site (pro- or anti-Israeli)
                                      albeit one that isn't really worthwhile
                                      claims the Israeli consul to SF said
                                      the IDF were engaged in clearing bushes
                                      used to cover tunnels.  Whatever;
                                      running people over with bulldozers is
                                      bad, standing in front of bulldozers is
                                      stupid.  -John
                                      \_ it worked for Arthur Dent!
                 \_ "Don't believe the news, it's controlled by Jews!"
                    -Berkeley protesters. (no joke)
        \_ did she get a Darwin award for this one?
        \_ Person vs. Bulldozer.
           \_ Cf. Person vs. Tank, Tiananman Square, 6/4/89.
                                         \_ Actually, his house didn't make it
                                            either.
                                         \_ If not for froody Ford Prefect
                                            Arthur would have been flattened.
                                            \_ He would have been vaporized
                                               before he got a chance to be
                                               flattened.
                                      \_ Some people have tried to claim
                                         that the building demolishment was
                                         part of an IDF tunnel clearing
                                         program. Perhaps that is true,
                                         in any case, no tunnel was ever
                                         found underneath or near the house
                                         she was trying to protect.
        \_ I can't believe no one has tried to troll this post.
           \_ I can't believe you weren't awake yesterday. This post
              had a big followup to it yesterday. I guess the MOTD censor
              trimmed it all. FYI, contributing to middle east causes may
              be dangerous to your potential status as a U.S. citizen. If
              you are a green card holder be careful about what you donate
              to.
              \_ Just give cash.
        \_ Why would you give money to people who hate America? Only George
           Bush is allowed to do that.
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rafahpundits.com/2005/03/from-the-nasrallahs
willingly aided and abetted terrorists, the terrorists were actually stood on the spot where she died holding a very small and personal family memorial. The Terrorists in this instance being Mr Nasrallah, a doctor (actually I think he was a chemist) who a)isnt a terrorist and b)never had a smug gling tunnel under his house then or months later when it was finally de molished, and his family with whom Rachel apparently spent many nights. I met the doctor once, in passing, and had tea with his wife, or possibl y his sister I cant be sure. This post has nothing to do with the ISM or the work that Rachel was doin g, it has everything to do with realising that the people who post blind ly about Rachel Corrie, and more importantly the owner of the house she was killed in front of, are actually completely deluded. message from the Nas rallah family with six or seven pictures in addition to this one: lighting a candle Lighting a candle There have also been some updates to the page with some additional commen ts from Khaled Nasrallah about the memorial. It is important that Rachel Corrie inspire people to speak out. Louis, has a great piece up on ZNet using the examples of Oscar Romero (who was assassinated 25 years ago today) and Rachel Corrie to inspire more to do the same.
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Beit Arabiya Peace Center November 02, 2004 Nasrallah Family History by Khaled Nasrallah Dear Readers, Many of you have asked about the Nasrallah family - who are they? What happened after Rachel died and after their home was finally demolished? Khaled Nasrallah, working with writer Kristi Schaeffer, prepared the following chronology to help you k now his family better. In that time, our grandfather was the Mukhtar of our village and after him his son Hassen was. The village was named Sarafand al Amar (it is a Turkish name "the home of money"), it was located in the district between four cities named al Ra mlah and al Lud (north to south) and on the road between Jerusalem and H aifa on the sea(from the east to west). After 1948 our family was forced to leave their homeland with thousands o f other families without taking anything with them, not even their wrist watches. Some of t he brothers went to Jordan and the rest went to Gaza under very bad cond itions. Our father went to Egypt alone to find a work with the British army there (the British army at the Suez canal). He worked as a seller and after t hat as a driver to a big Canadian officer who liked him and advised him to call his family from Gaza Strip as he had information that the UN wil l submit the strip to the Israeli Defense Force. So, our father brought the family to Egypt before the war of 1967. After that, the wife of Gene ral Ketly gave our father a recommendation to emigrate to Australia, but because of his Islamic name, his application was refused. Our father st arted to work hard in Egypt and brought cargo cars (3 trucks and 2 taxis ) and made it his only goal to provide for all of his children so that t hey would continue their studies. Two died small from sickness, the others struggled to continue their studies. As our father became older and his cars needed more maintenance, that led to a decrease in income which led to sufferin g But we were the most happy family in the world. All of us finished our studies with good marks and some of us c ontinued on to higher studies. All our sisters are married (1 lives in the United Arab Emirates (UAE), 1 in Jenin/West Bank, 1 in Egypt, and 1 in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, b ut her husband died in a car accident in Egypt during a holiday visit). Samir) married in the UAE, but during the 2n d gulf war he moved to Libya via Egypt. In 1994, Abu Kareem came to Gaza after the peace agreement between the PLO and Israel. At that time we, as well as all Palestinians, thought that will be the end of conflict be tween the two nations, so our family decided to come to Gaza to live in peace. On April 30, 1998, I came to Rafah after I finished my studies in account ing. We put all the money we had to buy land and build our home in our h omeland that we had heard so much about. On July 23, 1999 we finished building our home (it was the day before my wedding day). And from the first building stone for our family in her ho meland, all of us were very happy to have this opportunity to gather ste p by step. But in the end of 2000 the Intifada started, and our life became in dange r Our quiet home was close to the border, so for the first time we saw the tanks and heard explosions. It was a very hard time for us to live w ith that new atmosphere (all our life in the past was in peace). The vio lence of course comes from both parties but without balance: hand guns a gainst tanks and helicopters, clear goal of our need of freedom and but unclear political path to a just peace. Under the gunfire and this very scary situation, most of our neighbors le ft the area, but we could not as our home meant a lot to us -- it was ou r future, we cannot destroy our family's dreams. So we decided to contin ue living in that danger to hold the hope for the rest of our family, an d to save a home for the next generation of Nasrallahs, in the light tha t, we were civilians and never did anything against the army. Step by step the situation became more difficult and every week more home s were demolished in our neighborhood. Our screaming increased, but also the hope of arriving with our home intact to safety after this storm. U nder that stupid violence, the International Solidarity Movement groups started to come to watch what was happening, and to help stop the violen ce and achieve the peace. They selected our home as it was a special one : it was near to the border, and our family was staying inside it, refus ing to leave the place we loved. The internationals joined us, coming to our home in the hope of stopping the demolitions for the rest of the neighborhood. In that time our hope to save our home increased because of those pro-peace youth. The ISM youth come to stay every day because they wanted to help, but no one could know how bad any day would get. Some when they were with us un der heavy gunfire they felt the same way we felt, that there was no safe place anywhere in the home and also no way to run because the way out i s not safe or clear. It was so dangerous for all of us, and yet they cam e bacl again the next day, brave enough to overcome their fear and suppo rt us. I remember that when my child Noor was injured, Rache l tried to help us and make us laugh in that hard time (she was with a S candinavian friend and they call it wewe while in arabic we say wawa). S he had high spirits and brought a smile to the face of others. Also we r emember her sleeping with Abu Kareems children under the same blankets, watching TV and cartoons with them. From this human relationship, she decided to use her bullhorn to make the bulldozer driver stop when came to demolish our home. Of course no one expected the bulldozer would keep on coming, otherwise we would have sto pped her by any means possible. After we saw what happened, Abu Kareem ran to help her, and I ran to call the ambulance and brought from my home bandages to stop blood. It was a very bad day in our life, as we see and touch the meaning of humanity. She tried to stop the bulldozer to keep our home for the children whom she played and ate with. We believe that though she left her body, her thoughts of justice and peace surely will guide the road for others. We, with ISM, made her memorial funeral in the same place where she met h er God. Under the fire of tanks and gas, we put flowers there and it was a very special day, many of ISM and us facing danger from the shooting around us, but we only felt that we must do this very small thing for Ra chel to express our love to her. With time the danger increased, and we felt that there the army is sendin g us a message to leave our home because of intensive shooting at our ho me and on us personally. Like in the movies once you move your head ther e is a bullet in the wall in the same place of your head. But we continu ed, holding hope that peace would arrive in time to save our home. I remember one time we were in the garden (we were sitting and playing in side our walls -- it was all the world to us when we got back from work or the children from the school, since we could not go out and no one co uld come to visit us) and the tank arrived and started to shoot very dir ect and heavy. They kept shooting at all our lights then the y were gone. My little child Mariam still remembers that red fruit runni ng down my face and I will always remember as well. It was really a very difficult time and at that time we felt that, those intensive gun barrel messages will end by demolishing our home. Oct 1-17, 2003 Our home faced a very strong invasion named Operation Root Canal. It was one of biggest invasions in Rafah and the first one of th at size. We were still living in our home taking the risk of living unde r daily gunfire to save it from demolition. But in that invasion, the ID F cut the electricity and drinking water supply and sewage plus making a 5-7 m trench around 3 sides of our home, damaging the foundation and cu tting the pathway to the home as it was standing alone out there. At that time we were forced to leave the home because we cannot continue our life there, and it was the most sad day of our life to leave our hom e in this situation. We rememb...