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wagglebee A mounting number of aides, advisors and fundraisers for New York Sen. Hi llary Clinton have faced criminal prosecution in recent months, conjurin g up memories of her ethically challenged past just as Democrats begin t o focus on the former first lady as their probable 2008 presidential nom inee. Clinton's finance director, Da vid Rosen, was sparse last week, the case has brought attention to the p rosecutions of at least three more Clinton fundraisers. And that's on top of the plea bargain reached with the Justice Department in March by a senior foreign policy advisor to the former first lady. Five members of Mrs Clinton's inner circle now face indictment, trial or have pled guilty to an array or crimes, with the news of the prosecutor ial deluge emerging in just the last few months. If convicted on the three counts of fraud cited in h is indictment, Rosen faces 15 years in jail and/or $250,000 in fines. In exchange for leniency, Reggie agreed to tape record Clinton campaign in siders about illicit fundraising activities. A close friend of Mrs Clinton who lavished gifts on her aides and visite d the White House seven times in 2000 alone; Mr Tonken's is currently s erving a 63 month jail sentence. The Justice Department has yet to relea se other details of his plea arrangement. Because of the political sensitivity of Berger's crime, h e was let off with a $10,000 fine and a three-year suspension of his sec urity clearance. As recently as February, Berger was advising Mrs Clinton, with the New Y ork Times revealing that he helped her prepare an address to a national security conference in Germany. Clinton's star had been on the rise, with Democ rats encouraged over polls suggesting she had shed her reputation for et hical controversy. But the renewed swirl of scandal, punctuated by one i ndictment after another, "has some top party bosses feeling nervous," th e UK Observer reported on Sunday. "This sort of thing just serves to remind people of the Nineties scandals like Whitewater and the Monica Lewinsky affair," University of Californ ia political scientist Shaun Bowler told the paper. Bowler added, "Some Democrats have short memories - but I don't think tha t a lot of American voters do."
View Replies To: wagglebee Does it bother anybody(MSM) that the woman who wasn't aware, and doesn't know what's going on in her inner circle, is being touted for president?
View Replies To: Txsleuth "But, her HUSBAND, may be called as a witness--- What a complete farce this is----" Her husband is still working on the meaning of "is"...
View Replies To: 26lemoncharlie I wonder if some of these "Aides' realize their predecessors had a habit of disappearing ? The lucky ones get prison cells, the others get taken on a ride to Fort M arcy Park or something similar.
Umm, that's because the person on trial there is David Rosen. Would you expect the prosecutor in United States v Rosen to open his case by telling the jury that somebody else did it? What the judge said is that "Mrs Clinton will not be called to testify i n the case." That would be because neither the prosecutor nor the defens e counsel plans to call her. It is not because the judge has an opinion on whether there might someday be a case called United States v Clinton. I wish people would stop acting as if they think Hillary Clinton is suppo sed to be found guilty in David Rosen's trial. In the real world, the only person who can be found guilty in David Rose n's trial is David Rosen.
doug from upland I am sorry---I was led to believe that the judge said more than just that she wouldn't be called to testify--or maybe I read what DFU has been po sting and Hannity has been saying. Do you know why Bill Clinton could be called as a witness?
View Replies To: Txsleuth No, Hillary will not testity in the Rosen case. But why would anyone rely on a known perjurer to be your characte witness? He might know something of value other than breast size of the female guests.
The defense counsel only asked the judge not to tell the jury that Bill Clinton would not be called, because he hasn't decided on his witnesses yet. They play the Reggie tape in which Rosen is heard saying that "the President" called him practically every other day. The lawyer asks Rosen on the stand what they talked about. He says that Bill gave him instructions on how to bury the ex penses so as to maximize the 'hard money' take from the event. If the jury believes this, they are now sympathetic to Rosen, and see him as a fall guy. Rosen has also "cleared" Hillary to the extent that he c an. He gets on the s tand and says, "Shucks, we just talked about women." Everybody suspects Bill is lying, but the damage has been done. So Rosen walks, Hillary is cleared by Rosen, and Bill is still that lovable rogue. If there's any goo d news to be had, it will come out of the civil suit coming from Peter P aul and USJF. In that one, they both will be called to testify, and ther e are some Interesting Documents for them to answer questions about.
View Replies To: doug from upland Levin was Bill's go between with Paul. Paul wanted Bill's help with Stan Lee Productions, or whatever they calle d it. Supposedly Bill was going to work with Paul and they had reached an agree ment on an amount (multi millions) according to Paul. Who was encouraging Paul to donate to Hills campaign as a way t o gain further inroads to finalize a deal with Bill?
View Replies To: Txsleuth Well, according to the judge and DA in the case in California, Hillary ha s absolutely NO connection to this Sure, whatever. These people worked for Hitlery, a known control freak, a nd she is not connected to it. I bet she was as shocked by these discove ries as she was about her husband's sex scandals.
View Replies To: Txsleuth Lee didn't invest much in this "Bill's Leaving, Hill's Dreaming of New Yo rk" fundraiser. Tangent: I have Amazing Spider Man from about 50 to 100. Somebody did a nice pic of the Hulk regarding the fillibusters. FWIW, I read somewhere on here that Stan Lee married into Marvel Comics, and though he has taken much of the credit, did not create them.
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