5/11 Mr. McKee,
You're getting awfully heated in the below conversation. As
root, former VP, and now president, you should really cool your heels
before making pronouncements. You're treading where a number of others
have trod to no good effect.
Words from those with authority (as limited and petty as that authority
may be) must be wielded cautiously, or you'll find yourself either
without that authority or with authority over a worthless entity.
--Another former VP.
\_ Hey, fuck off. Unlike previous apathetic/pathetic VP/president, this
new guy is actually showing some interest in making changes. People
hold on to the past dearly, but it's year 2005 and our motd
still using 1970 technologies. It's time to let go and move on, and
give our new guy the benefit of the doubt. Go McKee. I SUPPORT YOU.
\_ See, unfortunately, lacking historical perspective, you don't
know that these are either non-changes or changes doomed for
failure.
\_ Drink the kool-aide or I'll make new soda a Windows 2003 box!
\_ I have made no secret that my primary loyalty is to current students,
these are the people that keep the CSUA alive and purposeful.
Alumni have many valuable things that can still contribute to the
CSUA and our students, but we musn't lose focus on what our ultimate
agenda is - the betterment and enjoyment of current CS students.
Soda serves as a bridge between the old and the new, but the priority
still goes to the new. What sort of environment does soda present
to users we're trying to bring into the CSUA fold, when they see
tripe and vitriol in such a public form? What sense of community
develops, when the only impression people get about the CSUA
soda community is that they're a bunch of assholes? It's not the
community I want to foster under my watch, and I make no bones
about working against efforts that seek to undermine the success
of the CSUA. Perhaps I'm an autocratic nazi like this, but I also
don't see how mindless insults in the MOTD can be defended.
\_ The sentiment is quite commendable, but as someone in a
leadership role (and as an experienced internet user), showing
restraint is part of the job description. In general,
injecting more vitriol into a vitriolic conversation is not
the best way to calm the situation, show leadership, or
impress anyone with your own maturity. As an alum, I'd gladly
donate services or money to the csua...provided I could be
convinced that my time/money/effort was going to be put to use
in a mature, considered way. It's gratfying to see that csua
leadership is passionate about the csua, but don't let your
passion become part of the very problem you're fighting. -mice
\_ You're treading the censorship line. There are many statements
made on the MOTD that cannot be defended. They can, however,
be ignored. The sense of community, that's up to those of you
on campus. It's always been the toughest thing to succeed at
with this group. But your autocratic leanings are only going to
leave _you_ stressed and disappointed. No one else will care.
\_ I think the legitimate criticism is in the words you use
("go fuck yourself"), not necessarily in your philosophy.
\_ I've never been one to spare a snide come back, but you're
right. I removed that part.
\_ carrots are crunchy and full of vitamins. They taste really
great when juiced with some beets, an apple, and a smidge of
ginger. |