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2005/5/11 [Reference/History/WW2/Germany, Reference/Religion] UID:37617 Activity:moderate
5/10    "A Baptist preacher accused of running out nine congregants who
         refused to support President Bush resigned Tuesday" Amen.
        http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7769149
        \_ atheists kill hundreds of millions in 20th century.
           \_ So did Christians.
              \_ no, mass genocide was perpetrated by atheists.
                 \_ Here's a great site that has a lot of evidence against the
                    lie perpetrated by fucks like you that Hitler was anything
                    but a Christian.
                    http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm
                    Fuck you.  Hitler was a Chrisitan, and Nazi Germany was a
                    Christian nation.
                        \_ Yup, and Hitler always said he was doing it for
                           God.
                    \_ Was that why the Church was reluctant to save the Jews
                       from the Nazis?
                    \_ Come on!  Hitler was a Buddhist.  Don't you see the
                       swastika on the Nazi flags?  He killed the Jews to send
                       them to the west heaven to meet the Buddha god.
                 \_ Where are you thinking?
                        \_  Hitler was immersed in the occult and he believed
                            he was the antichrist.  The notion that this
                            makes him a Christian is absurd.  A few photos
                            on the net really means nothing.  Let's consider
                            and quotes taken out of contect from the net
                            really means nothing.  Let's consider
                            what the real historians think:
                            link:csua.org/u/c0j
                            Besides the Jews, another 6 million, mostly Polish
                            and mostly Christian, also died in the death
                            camps.  To characterize Hitler as an atheist may
                            be unfair, in which case he is a pagan.
                            This reminds me of the notion that Hitler was
                            not a Socialist.
           \_ Religious right extremists lack basic reading skills in early
              21st c.
              \_ Lefties campaign in churches.
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Politics Political North Carolina pastor resigns Pastor was accused of ousting members who voted against Bush The Associated Press Updated: 8:42 pm ET May 10, 2005 WAYNESVILLE, NC - A Baptist preacher accused of running out nine congre gants who refused to support President Bush resigned Tuesday. Click Here I am resigning with gratitude in my heart for all of you, particularly t hose of you who love me and my family, the Rev. Chan Chandler said duri ng a meeting at East Waynesville Baptist Church. Congregants of the 100-member church in western North Carolina have said Chandler endorsed Bush from the pulpit during last years presidential c ampaign and said that anyone who planned to vote for Democratic nominee Sen. The church members said he continued to preach about politics after Bush won re-election, culminating with a church gathering last week in which the nine members said they were ousted. Speaking from the pulpit Tuesday night, Chandler opened the meeting with prayer before telling the gathered congregation that, For me to remain now would only cause more hurt for me and my family. Strong sentiments on abortion Chandler made no mention of Bush or Kerry, saying only that the dispute w as rooted in his strong feelings about abortion. He then left with his wife and drove away from the church escorted by pol ice. A few moments later, about 40 of his supporters many in tears c ame out of the church while other church members remained inside. I dont believe he preached politics, said Rhonda Trantham, one of Chan dlers supports. I dont believe anyone should tell a preacher not to p reach whats in the Bible. said the pastor has not apologized fo r anything he said and would continue to speak out against abortion. He said the dispute inside the church had nothing to do with politics, a co ntention seconded Tuesday by Chandlers supporters. The only thing I wanna say is that everything thats been in the press i s a lie, said Misty Turner. Asked if she would remain a member of East Waynesville, she said, Im no t going to serve with the ungodly. IRS investigation urged Chandlers resignation came a day after a national group that lobbies for church-state separation urged the Internal Revenue Service to investiga te the tax-exempt status of the East Waynesville Baptist Church. IRS rules bar clear-cut politicking by tax-exempt groups. Last October, d ays before Bush won a second term, the IRS said it was investigating abo ut 60 charities and other tax-exempt groups about a third of them chur ches for potentially breaking rules that bar them from participating i n political activity. The IRS is barred from naming the organizations it investigates or announcing case results. At Sundays service, the 33-year-old Chandler said the flap over the chur ch members dismissal was a great misunderstanding and he tried to wel come them back. No one has ever been voted from the membership of this church due to an individuals support or lack of support for a political party or candida te, he said in a statement. But the dismissed members, who attended the service with their lawyer and other supporters, said there was no misunderstanding and the only way t o heal the rift is for Chandler to leave. This material may not b e published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Hardball, Tuesday at 7 pm ET When former Green beret Dr. Jeffrey MacDonald's wife and children were br utally murdered, he said hippies did it. Now after three decades Chris shows you why this murder mystery is heading for a new twist.
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Hitler's Christianity To deny the influence of Christianity on Hitler and its role in World War II, means that you must ignore history and bar yourself forever from un derstanding how this atrocity occurred. " As a boy, Hitler attended to the Catholic church and experienced the anti-Semitic attitude of his culture. In his book, Mein Kampf, Hitler reveals himself as a fanatical believer in God and country. This text presents selected quotes from the infamous anti-Semite himself. The Christianity of Hitler revealed in his speeches and proclamati ons Hitler's own words reveal his feelings for God, Christianity and faith. Taken from speeches made by Hitler from the 1922 to 1939. Hitler compared to God/Jesus/Christians Hitler was not only a confessed Christian, but his intolerance and atrocities were consistent with Biblical scripture and he acted as other Christians of the past and present. Quotes from Hitler's Henchmen and Nazi Sympathizers A sample of quotes from Hitler's most powerful Nazis and sympathizers and how they felt about Christianity, Church and God. Christianity in Europe during WWII The Catholic and Protestant Churches in Germany set the foundation for WWII and the atrocities to occur. Indeed, Hitler could not have come to power without Christianity's help. Hitler's table talk and other extraneous sources Those who use argue against Hitler's Christianity use the Table-Talk as their main source. However, the reliability of the source comes into question, nor does it provide evidence against Hitler's own Christian beliefs, even if valid.