Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 37434
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2005/4/30-5/3 [Computer/SW/WWW/Browsers] UID:37434 Activity:moderate
4/30    In Outlook Express I get an error message everytime I check my
        CSUA account, although I still get my mail.  I am using POP port 995
        with SSL.  Is there a way I can prevent this message, it's annoying:
        "The server you are connected to is using a security certificate that
        could not be verified.  A certificate chain processed, but terminated
        in a root certificate which is not trusted by the trust provider.  Do
        you want to continue using this server?"
        \_ asking Outlook question on csua motd is a bad idea.  Any reason
           why you want to use Outlook Express at first place?
           \_ One (the?) reason to use Outlook as opposed to, say, Mozilla/
              T-Bird is that it uses the XP MyStore as opposed to the Netscape
              one which has problems with some certs (esp. personal certs with
              non-exportable private keys.)  I've just gone through this, and
              while OpenSSL can deal with a lot of cert-related problems, it's
              a bit tough for novice users to get the hang of.  And if you're
              dealing with multiple mail profiles, including Exchange/MAPI, it
              has nicer calendaring/AD integration if you're lazy.  -John
              \_ We're talking about Outlook Express, not Outlook.
                 \_ CAPI/MyStore point holds, though.  -John
           \_ I use it because it's easy to use and comes with XP.  Why is
              it a bad idea to ask on the motd?
              \_ because it's extremely virus prone.  from the message, I
                 assume it's because csua uses a self-signed certificate.
                 there might be a security setting you can toggle to default
                 allow self-signed certificates.  unfortunately I only know
                 how to do this on macs.
                 \_ Thanks for your help, by knowing CSUA uses self-signed
                    certificates I was able to find the answer on Google.
                    What you have to do is go to:
                    <DEAD>soda.csua.berkeley.edu:995<DEAD>
                    Then, when prompted, you can choose to "View the
                    Certificate" and import it.  After that your Outlook
                    Express account won't prompt you anymore since it's
                    stored in the IE database.  Hope this helps others.
                    \_ Thanks!  995 is the SSL POP port.  FYI, I was trying to
                       do this with another mail server using SSL IMAP.  I just
                       needed to browse to <DEAD>my-server:993<DEAD> in Internet
                       Explorer and do the same thing. (port 993 is the default
                       SSL IMAP port).
                       Don't use Mozilla/Thunderbird/Netscape e-mail, but I
                       imagine it's the same process but you need to import the
                       cert using a Mozilla-based browser.
                       \_ On the contrary, you don't need to deal with such
                          roundabout nonsense with those.
        \_ I urge you give Mozilla Thunderbird a try.  It is more intuitive
           to use than Outlook Express, IMHO.  Further, you are stuck with
           the Outlook Express' file format. it's hard to do back up,
           restoration, and etc... and it's virus-prone.
           \_ For office use, I get huge attachments.  Thunderbird needs to
              support deleting attachments like Outlook does.  Can't say
              much for Outlook Express, though, since OE doesn't support it.
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