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2005/4/26-27 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:37370 Activity:kinda low
4/26    Islamic scholar convicted his political activity.  url not shorteded
        because it is kind of interesting.
        http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050426/ap_on_re_us/terror_paintball
        \_ I am skeptical of their use of the term "islamic scholar".  This
           guy just finished a phd in computational biology.  They cite no
           evidence that this guy is any kind of actual religious scholar
           or leader of any kind beyond his circle of freinds from paintball
           and the internet.  I'm guessing the word "kingpin" is from some
           dipshit prosecutor who wants to be a star.
        \_ Yeah, that "political activity" is called treason.  And not
           just the Ann Coulter version, that's the real deal.
           \_ Yes, this is treason. The word has almost lost its real
              meaning because it is constantly being abused by Bush
              war supporters that claim anyone that disagrees with
              them, like that jackass LTC whose blog was posted in the
              motd yesterday. Reporting accurate, but unhappy, news about
              events in Iraq is not "treason."
              \_ Yeah, everyone who who misused the word treason are
              \_ Yeah, everyone who who misuses the word treason are
                 traitors!
        \_ I'm not suggesting letting this guy go free, but how is this
           different from the militia groups that seem to get a free pass?
           \_ According to the Michigan Militia group, they exist to protect
              Americans in case our government/military becomes corrupted.
           \_ Since when do militias get a free pass?
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US National - AP By MATTHEW BARAKAT, Associated Press Writer ALEXANDRIA, Va. The convictions against Ali al-Timimi, 41, carry a mandatory minimum sent ence of life in prison without parole. But the judge left open the possi bility that she will toss out some of the counts. The jury reached its verdict after seven days of deliberations and convic ted al-Timimi of all 10 counts. Prosecutors said the defendant a native US citizen who has an interna tional following in some Muslim circles wielded enormous influence amo ng a group of young Muslim men in northern Virginia who played paintball games in 2000 and 2001 as a means of training for holy war around the g lobe. He said th ey were required as Muslims to defend the Taliban from a looming US in vasion, according to the government. While nobody ever joined the Taliban, four of the defendant's followers s ubsequently traveled to Pakistan in late September 2001 and trained with a militant group called Lashkar-e-Taiba. Afgha nistan, and that it was al-Timimi's speech that inspired them to do so. The evidence included a 2003 e-mail in which al-Timimi described the Colu mbia shuttle disaster as "a good omen" that "Western supremacy (especial ly that of America) that began 500 years ago is coming to an end, God wi lling." "By his treasonous criminal acts, he has proven himself to be a kingpin o f hate against America," US Attorney Paul McNulty said in a statement. "He not only wanted Americans to die, he recruited others to his cause at a time when our country was mourning the loss of more than 3,000 peop le who were murdered in a heinous act of terrorism." The three followers who testified against al-Timimi have all struck plea bargains, and the defense contended they were lying in the hopes that pr osecutors will reduce their sentences. Al-Timimi's lawyers also disputed the notion that the men were his follow ers and contended that he merely suggested migration to a Muslim nation because it might be difficult to practice Islam in the US after Sept. Finally, the defense contended the prosecution of al-Timimi was an assaul t on his religious and free-speech rights. Al-Timini was convicted of charges including soliciting others to levy wa r against the United States and inducing others to use firearms in viola tion of federal law. The firearms convictions require mandatory life imp risonment. Defense lawyer Edward MacMahon said, "Obviously we're disappointed in the verdict. We'll file a motion to set aside the verdict and to request a new trial." Judge Leonie Brinkema agreed to allow al-Timimi to remain free on bond pe nding his sentencing in July. Prosecutors had argued that federal law re quired the judge to immediately revoke bond when convicted of such serio us charges, but Brinkema said the law allows her discretion "when there is a reasonable basis for reversal" of the convictions on some counts. Al-Timimi last year obtained a PhD in computational biology from George Mason University after completing a doctoral dissertation related to ca ncer research. He becomes the 10th person convicted in the government's prosecution of w hat it called a "Virginia jihad network." The informati on contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewr itten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associ ated Press.