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2005/4/21-22 [Computer/HW/Drives, Computer/SW/OS/Windows] UID:37304 Activity:nil
4/21    Is it possible to boot from an external Firewire or USB drive? I'd
        like to install Windows XP on such a drive and occasionally boot
        my SCSI Linux box into Windows from it.
        \_ depends on your hardware.  -tom
           \_ What is the requirement in the hardware?
              \_ If your BIOS allows it, then yes.  If not, then no.
        \_ Do we have to go through this every week?
        \_ "After many failed attempts and investigation, I believe Windows XP
           does not support booting off of a USB drive no matter how much
           wishful thinking" [Dec 15 2004]
           http://www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/425/how-to_boot_windows
           Lots of no, sorry, nope posts: [Apr 5 2005]
           http://csua.org/u/bsy
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www.ehomeupgrade.com/entry/425/how-to_boot_windows
jpg With the cost of solid state disks like Compact Flash and USB thumb drive s coming down in price, they have become an attractive option to use as a replacement for hard drives on home entertainment PCs. Net application, running Windows XP Home using an inexpensive compact flash card. As a disclaimer, please note th at your mileage may vary when doing this procedure so please don't blame me if things go badly, your spouse leaves you, and/or your dog bites yo u as a result of this article. Via Epia M10000, has an option in BIOS to boot t o a USB drive. After many failed attempts and investigation, I believe W indows XP does not support booting off of a USB drive no matter how much wishful thinking, so I took an alternative road using a compact flash c ard and an IDE adaptor. Please let me know in the comments if you have f ound a way to get USB drives to boot into Windows XP. I used a cheap 1 gig Compact Flash card but depending on your skill level and tolerance of repeated attempts, I believe this can be done on a 512 MB card as well. Net which increases the disk usage significantly, so if you are using a different application, I think 512MB is adequate. I also used a compact flash IDE adaptor which is pretty easy to find both online and at electronics stores. Partition Magic, which makes it easy to resize and copy one hard drive to another. I believe there are open source proj ects that can do some of this, but I find Partition Magic easy and depen dable so it's worth the cost to purchase it. Step 1 - Build system using a hard drive Windows XP Home requires a minimum of 15Gigs of hard drive space, so the first step is to build the system using a standard hard drive. I create d a partition of 2 Gigs but found it inadequate to installing Service Pa ck 2, so I suggest putting the OS on a 3 Gigs or bigger drive to start. I installed a fresh copy of the OS using NTFS since it has a handy "comp ress files" option which I use later. I then added the VIA drivers and s pent a good deal of time in Windows Update getting all the latest patche s I also installed BeyondTV Link and the Firefly Remote software. At this point, it wouldn't b e a bad idea to back everything up using a tool like Partition Magic in case you need to come back to this point (I learned this the hard way) Step 2 - Turn off Virtual Memory The first thing you'll want to do is turn off virtual memory so it doesn' t create a paging file on the drive. This can be found by right clicking "My Computer" and selecting "Properties". It's under the Advanced Tab, buried in another dialog by selecting the "Settings" button under Perfor mance. Make sure that when you select "No pa ging file" you hit the "Set" button or it won't actually adjust the sett ings. Step 3 - XPLite from LitePC The next step for me was pruning back the OS using XPLite from LitePC. Be careful thou gh, since you'll likely remove the System Restore feature which gobbles up a lot of space, but prevents you from doing something completely irre versible. See my review on XPLite for more information on how to use the product. Make sure you reboot a couple times afterwards to remove a ny system restore points. Step 4 - Clean up The next thing I did was to boot into Windows Safe Mode (hold down the F8 key) to do some basic clean up of the system. Make sure you have change d file explorer to show hidden and system files. This can be found in th e "Folder Options" menu in the "View" tab. Your final system will likely be different from mine, but here are a few good things to remove or cha nge to get more disk space: * Delete anything in the Windows directory that starts with $NTUninstal l * Delete anything I the Windows/SoftwareDistribution/Download directory . Note that this is only available if you formatted your drive using NTFS. Being more aggress ive, at one point I had a working system under 500MB Step 5 - Resize and Copy I ran the floppy boot disks for Partition Magic to resize and move the OS to the compact flash card. Make sure you resize the hard drive partitio n small enough to fit the compact flash card, and then from within Parti tion Magic, copy the drive over to the compact flash drive. Final Step - Remove original Drive and put Compact Flash Drive in its pla ce The final step is to remove the original hard drive and switch the connec tors so it puts the compact flash drive in its place. g Master Drive, Primary IDE channel) or you'll quickly run into a "NTloader is Missing" error. With any luck, it will boot up as it did before, albeit a lot more quietly than that s queaky old disk you were using before.
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But when Im partitioning the drive, I dont get the alternative to format the drive, and the installtions program says that the drive not is a compatible windows XP partition. msp x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ "xo" wrote: | Hey | | I'm trying to install windows XP SP2 on an external WD 160GB | harddrive. But when Im partitioning the drive, I dont get the | alternative to format the drive, and the installtions program says | that the drive not is a compatible windows XP partition. But when Im partitioning the drive, I dont get the > | alternative to format the drive, and the installtions program says > | that the drive not is a compatible windows XP partition. Carey is correct in that you cannot *directly* install Windows XP onto an external hard drive; Understand that the EHD will not be bootable (at least in my experience), but you could re:clone the contents back to your internal HD should the need arise. I have tried to start the setup, the harddisk works, but durint the installation procedure Windows does not even recognize a partition on the USB HD and I get the message that Windows also can't create a partition without further software. So is there any controller like RAID or SCSI which I can add so that Windows can be installed on an external USB HD? If not, how can I make an UDB HD bootable with WindowsXP? But when Im partitioning the drive, I dont get the > > | alternative to format the drive, and the installtions program say s > > | that the drive not is a compatible windows XP partition. Understand that the EHD will not be > bootable (at least in my experience), but you could re:clone the conte nts > back to your internal HD should the need arise. msp x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ "Arcane" wrote: | Carey: | | Is it true that WindowsXP can't be installed to an USB 20 harddisk? So is there any controller like | RAID or SCSI which I can add so that Windows can be installed on an | external USB HD? Would it be possible to temporary install WXP on an internal HD and then clone it to the usbdrive, (try to) make that partition bootable, and thu an external bootloader, boot the usbdrive ? Is it impossible to install W2k directly on to the EHD too? mspx > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- > > "Arcane" wrote: > > | Carey: > | > | Is it true that WindowsXP can't be installed to an USB 20 harddisk? So is there any controller like > | RAID or SCSI which I can add so that Windows can be installed on an > | external USB HD? msp x ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ "xo" wrote: | Hi | | My problem is that I can't have windows on my internal HD.