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4/21 Buh, duh, huh? http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html France Backs China on Taiwan \_ The French gov't makes me feel icky. \-C HITCHENS had a great comment about J CHIRAC: "a man, like the banker in Flaubert's Sentimental Education, 'so corrupt that he would willingly pay for the pleasure of selling himself".' --psb \_ It's wrong for France to back the Anti-Secession Law, especially when France is going against the countervailing current of world opinion that the law was unnecessary and increased tensions. As for the EU trying to convince the U.S. that it's okay for them to sell arms to China, the argument is: Russia is selling them the h07 sh17 w34P0N5 tech, so why aren't you blaming them? Then again, two wrongs don't make a right, so I consider the EU selling advanced arms to China as also wrong. \_ The US has been selling weapons to the world's worst people for a generation. It is amazingly hypocritical for us to complain about the EU doing the same thing. \_ Which country is not hypocritical? France and other European countries had been colonizing much of the world. China annexed Tibet and Xinjiang hundreds of years ago. Taiwan (the Nationalists) were oppressing the native Taiwanese decades ago. \_ So the French are simply following in their own best self interest, instead of doing what we want them to do. Is that your complaint? Especially after all the cheese-eating surrender monkey crap, they probably feel like we are not really an ally anymore. What a surprise. \_ The term Taiwanese, used by the pro-independence groups, actually refers to Chinese who settled there before Japan annexed Taiwan, rather than the aborigines, whom the pro-independence groups want to wipe out. But it was a very clever invention perfect for eliciting knee jerk "Taiwan belongs to Taiwanese" slogan. \_ Before the law was passed, Taiwan's defense minister proposed arming missles with chemical weapons and its legistators boasted developing nukes. That stopped after the law is passed. Seems like a good law. \_ increased tensions, yes, but why is the law unnecessary? \_ China doesn't need a law passed by the People's Congress saying they can invade to invade. \_ With a maturing government, China is becoming more reliant on legal codes and protcol than short term political whim. Every country goes through different periods. Dont' forget until < 100 years ago CA was the WWW and "the law" was a joke. \_ This url goes to a pair of enormous floppy breasts. \_ And the above posters are just bots who react to the word China the way I have programmed them. \_ Fixed. |
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www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,1564,1559253,00.html During a state visit to China, French Premier Raffarin threw support behi nd a law allowing China to attack Taiwan and continued to push for a lif t of the EU arms embargo. At the outset of a three-day visit to China, French Prime Minister Jean-P ierre Raffarin said he supported Beijing's "anti-secession" law on Taiwa n, and vowed to keep pushing for an end to an EU arms embargo that could open the door for Paris to sell weapons to the Asian giant. Appearing to put his government at odds with the European Union, Raffarin said at the outset of the three day visit that Paris had no objections to the anti-secession law. "The anti-secession law is completely compatible with the position of Fra nce," he said in a joint press conference with his Chinese counterpart W en Jiabao (photo). The embargo contradicts the current "strateg ic partnership" between the EU and China, he added. During his visit to Beijing on Thursday, China Eastern Airlines and Shenz hen Airlines signed a deal with the European consortium Airbus to buy a total of 10 A319/A320 planes. And China Southern completed an agreement on its purchase of five A380 super jumbos. The deals were signed between the carriers and the European consortium's vice-president, Philippe Delmas, who is in China accompanying Raffarin o n his visit. China's Airbus business In talking to news agencies, Delmas said the deals were "not letters of i ntent, but firm contracts." China is responsible for one-sixth of Airbus 's annual deliveries, he noted. France has lobbied hard for Airbus sales in China, and its close politica l ties with Beijing appear to have helped smooth the way for the deals. Ahead of the visit, Raffarin had stressed his commitment to push the EU t o lift its 16-year-old EU arms embargo against China by the end of June. In an interview with China's Xinhua news agency Wednesday, Raffarin rei terated the EU's decision, taken at a summit in December, to work toward lifting the arms embargo by late June. He added that the decision should be Europe's alone, and noted that Europ e is working to convince Washington of its position. "France continues to require the lifting of the embargo and does not see what could lead the European Council to change its position on the subje ct," Raffarin said Thursday in a joint press conference with Wen. Potential growth The airplane deals penned Thursday are estimated to be worth some $500 mi llion to $600 million, Airbus said. Some 20 other previously announced contracts were also finalized during t he ceremony. in the first four months of the year it gr ew by 40 percent over the same period last year," Delmas told news agenc ies. EU Facing Damaging Split Over China While France and Germany lead a group of EU countries intent on ending th e arms embargo on China, some are becoming nervous due to Chinese moves against Taiwan and increasing US pressure. China Weapons Embargo Full of Holes The US wants it, the EU wants it gone. The fight over the weapons embargo against China has smoldered for weeks. The fact is that European firms already deliver weapons to China -- as do American ones. US, EU on Collision Course Over China Two senior members of the United States Congress warned the European Unio n this week that the lifting of the 15-year arms embargo on China could result in a halt of US sales in military technology to the EU. |