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2005/4/13-15 [Reference/Tax] UID:37185 Activity:moderate
4/13    http://tinyurl.com/4bzl9
        This is gonna make the Gates' kids, Walton kids, and Paris Hilton
        very very happy.
        \_ Like it matters. If you're as rich as Gates etc. you would
           have already figured out ways to let the next generation inherit
           your property with minimal taxation. The people who are going to
           benefit the most probably are medium rich people, people with
           assets between 2-10 million bucks.
           \_ why do you hate rich people?
           \- gates is a bad example in this case. --psb
              \_ Why is he a bad example?
        \_ It also makes people who care about the principle happy. -emarkp
           \_ Which principle is that? Getting rid of all taxes and just
              borrowing money indefinitely?
              \_ I'm sure you're capable of thinking of one.  I'll leave the
                 exercise to the anonymous troll. -emarkp
              \_ I sure like to see the IRS get a chunk of wealth from the
                 super rich to finance social programs that benefits me and my
                 family, but what justification is there to tax them when a
                 father passes his wealth to his son while there is no business
                 activity or employment involved?
                 \_ I had to pay a ton of AMT taxes on virtual wealth I no
                    longer have.  The question is, which taxes do you want to
                    raise to compensate for the loss of tax revenue to make
                    up for the money we will no longer be getting from rich
                    dead people.  Small businesses and family farms are already
                    protected, so the "passes his wealth to his son" argument
                    is bogus.
                    \_ How are family farms already protected?
                    \_ 1. Rich dead people don't necessarily pay tax when they
                       were alive.  People who simply hold on to a lot of money
                       don't (and shouldn't) pay tax.  Only people who use that
                       big money to generate income does (and should) pay tax.
                       2. Do you mean which tax we raise comes down to which
                       tax the majority of people want to raise, rather than
                       which tax is justified to be raised?
                 \_ What about the gift tax?
                    \_ Also immoral and socialist.
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