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4/7     Watch popular conservative blog get it wrong on authenticity of
        Schiavo memo:  http://powerlineblog.com/archives/2005_03.php#009953
        The third possibility is that the memo is a Democratic dirty trick.
        At the moment, that looks most likely.  It is easy to picture how the
        document could have been constructed.  A Democratic staffer wants to
        put in some language that will sound authentic for a Republican memo.
        What does he do?  He steals four paragraphs from the Coalition's web
        site.  Then he adds the explosive political observations which are the
        whole point of the exercise--weirdly out of place in a "talking
        points" memo, but good politics for the Democrats.
        \_ You stopped taking your meds, didn't you?
        \_ i think a republican staffer just resigned for writing the
           memo - danh
           \_ A Florida Senator's legal counsel with close ties to... Tom DeLay.
           \_ You are correct.
           \_ Bahh, I have no need of your useless facts or logic!
           \_ From the Sun-Sentinel in Florida: http://csua.org/u/blx
        \_ You stopped taking your meds, didn't you?
        \_ Do you see the black helicopters too?
           \_ You two do realize the paragraph is taken verbatim from the URL?
        \_ Powerline is no better than The Free Republic.
           \_ Nor is Sean Hannity, nor Rush Limbaugh, nor Michelle Malkin,
              nor any of the other commentators who jumped on the meme that
              the memo was forged by dems.
              \_ Wow--I guess it's a good sign that I hadn't heard this nutty
                 theory.  Sounds just as wacky as the Dems who claim that the
                 CBS memos were authored by Karl Rove as a trap for the left.
                 \_ To her credit (never expected to say that...) Malkin came
                    to her senses today.
                    http://michellemalkin.com/archives/002017.htm
                    \_ Not really. Rather than apologize for spreading a
                       false rumour, she gets all snarky and defensive
                       ands makes a bunch more unsubstantiated attacks.
                       \_ Actually she links to an earlier blog entry where
                          she says other bloggers believed the forgery rumors,
                          not her, and another blog where she attacked the
                          believability of a report suggesting so.
                          now why do i feel so dirty?
        \_ Powerline is just as much of a right-wing loony bin as Dailykos over
           on the left.
        \_ Mediamatters has an entire timeline on how this crap got into the
           mainstream media.  This all just reminds me of that Negativland
           record "Helter Stupid."
           http://mediamatters.org/items/200504070005
           \_ Heh.
              "I think within a week or two it will become clear that it--that
              memo was a forgery, possibly written by Democrats on the Hill in
              an effort to discredit Republicans." -Tucker Carlson
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got away with a crimin al cover-up today when he pled guilty to a misdemeanor in connection wit h his theft of sensitive documents from the National Archives. It is undisputed that Berger illegally stuffed original documents relatin g to America's response to the threat of Islamic terrorism into his coat , pants and briefcase. Berger then destroyed a number of these top-secre t documents, so that they will never see the light of day. The idea that this was "an honest mistake," as Berger now claims, is ridiculous. Obvi ously, he was trying to destroy documents that showed the negligence of the Clinton administration--of which he was a key member--in dealing wit h the threat of terrorism. Key documents relating to our government's in adequate reaction to the threat of Islamic terrorism prior to Sept. This plea bargain appears, on its face, to be a disgrace. If anyone can think of a reason why this is not correct, please let us know. 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We stuck to what we knew to be true and did not call them talking points or a Republican memo. the fact that it was also distributed to so me Republicans would hardly be newsworthy--although, in fact, hardly any Republicans seem to have seen it. As we have noted, the document has been widely described in th e press as a "GOP talking points memo." Michelle Malkin has identified a number of newspapers that ran the Washington Post's story on the memo, but in a version that (unlike the one that appeared in the Post itself) explici tly attributed the document to the party's leadership. this is what you get: dozens of news sources, including Reute rs, have reported, falsely, that the "talking points memo" was distribut ed by Republican party leaders. Each of these news outlets attributed th e story to "Mike Allen and Manuel Roig-Franzia, Washington Post." 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Martinez aide wrote memo on Schiavo Counsel resigns after furor over document By Tamara Lytle Washington Bureau Chief Posted April 7 2005 WASHINGTON -- The strategy memo outlining how Republicans could gain poli tical capital by intervening in the Terri Schiavo case was written by Fl orida Sen. Mel Martinez's legal counsel, who abruptly left his job Wedne sday. Martinez, a freshman senator from Orlando who was the leading sponsor of the Schiavo bill that Congress passed in an extraordinary session on Pal m Sunday, said he earlier had been assured by aides that his office had nothing to do with producing the memo that created a furor on Capitol Hi ll. Click Here advertisement "I never did an investigation, as such," Martinez told The Washington Pos t on Wednesday. "I just took it for granted that we wouldn't be that stu pid. It was never my intention to in any way politicize this issue." But Brian Darling, Martinez's legal counsel and a former lobbyist on gun rights and other issues, on Wednesday admitted writing the now-infamous document after Sen. Tom Harkin, D-Iowa, told Martinez that the Republica n senator gave him the memo, calling it "talking points" on the GOP's Sc hiavo proposal. In a statement issued Wednesday night, Martinez said that Harkin asked hi m for background information on the bill and that he gave him what he th ought was a routine one-page staff memo on the legislation. "Unbeknownst to me, instead of my one page on the bill, I had given him a copy of the now infamous memo that at some point along the way came int o my possession," the statement said. The mystery of the memo's origin had roiled the Capitol. Republicans disa vowed it, accusing Democrats of concocting the document as a dirty trick ; Democrats accused Republicans of trying to duck responsibility for exp loiting the profoundly brain-damaged woman as she lay dying in a Pinella s Park hospice. The memo called the drama a "great political issue" for Republicans and s ingled out Sen. Martinez apologized to Nelson in a statement Wednesday and said the memo "in no way reflected my motivations for being involved in this legislati on whatsoever." "As a senator, I am ultimately responsible for the work of my staff and t he product that comes out of this office. I take full responsibility for this situation," Martinez said. how I intend to co nduct my business as a United States senator." The unsigned memo -- which initially misspells Schiavo's first name and g ives the wrong number for the pending bill -- includes eight talking poi nts in support of the legislation and calls the controversy "a great pol itical issue." "This legislation ensures that individuals like Terri Schiavo are guarant eed the same legal protections as convicted murderers like Ted Bundy," t he memo concludes. It asserts that the case would appeal to the party's core supporters, say ing: "This is an important moral issue and the pro-life base will be exc ited that the Senate is debating this important issue." The document was provided to ABC News on March 18 and to The Washington P ost on March 19 and was included in news reports about congressional int ervention in the Schiavo case. President Bush returned from an Easter ho liday in Texas and signed the bill shortly after 1 am March 21. Schiavo died March 31 after federal courts would not order her feeding tu be reinserted. "This is not a document that would have been approved in this office for circulation under any circumstances," Martinez said Wednesday night. "Th e person responsible for drafting and circulating this document has tend ered their resignation, and I have accepted it. This type of behavior an d sentiment will not be tolerated in my office. Darling, whose resignation was confirmed by Martinez aides late Wednesday , is a former partner at the GOP powerhouse lobbying firm Alexander Stra tegy Group, founded by a former chief of staff to Senate Majority Leader Tom DeLay of Texas. The memo flap was not the first controversy for Martinez, the former Oran ge County chairman and secretary of the Housing and Urban Development du ring most of President Bush's first term. During his hard-fought GOP Senate primary campaign against former Rep. Bi ll McCollum last year, he ran ads and sent out fliers bashing his oppone nt as a darling of the "radical homosexual lobby." Martinez said he had not approved the mailings and pulled the ads under f ire from GOP Gov.
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sa id these were talking points -- something that we're working on here." Martinez describe the contents of the memo if he had not s een it? Then there's Brian Darling, Martinez's legal counsel (until last night, w hen he resigned). According to the Post, Darling is taking the blame for authoring the Schiavo memo. reported simi lar allegations, citing "Senate Republican leadership aides to both Sen. Mitch McConnell, as well as the Senate Republica n Policy Committee." Did Darling give a fake tip to Claybourn to try to divert attention from himself? Who exactly spoke to the P rowler and from whom did the Prowler's sources get their information? my suggestion that he divulg e the phone numbers of his sources. Will he continue to play nicey-nice with his sources now that they have been shown to be manipulative, lying smear merchants? Martinez and his former legal counsel may stil l have plenty of 'splainin' to do.
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Despite a lack of evidence, several media sources have repeated conservat ive speculation and accusations that Democrats secretly authored a "talk ing points" memo that described the Terri Schiavo case as a "great polit ical issue" for Senate Republicans. These baseless accusations, apparent ly hatched on right-wing blogs and in conservative media such as The Ame rican Spectator, were given credibility by The Washington Post and CNN's Inside Politics. March 23 post to his blog on the National Review's website, Jim Geraghty also repeated the "evidence" that appeared on the Power Line bl og, and stated that "creepy phrases" in the memo indicate that the memo was written by a dumb GOP operative or a "Democratic dirty trickster." Kurtz apparently relied on the so-called "e vidence" put forth by Power Line and the Spectator to reach the conclusi on that "there are several strange things about" the memo: While there is no hard evidence that the memo is fake, there are several strange things about it, including the basic fact that no one seems to know who wrote it and that the noncontroversial part of it is lifted f rom a Republican senator's press release. that used a formal survey of S enate offices as "evidence" for questioning the authenticity of the Schi avo memo. Armed with this so-called "evidence" -- that the memo had typographical a nd spelling errors, was not printed on Senate stationary and had passage s pulled from a Republican senator's press release, as well as the fact that Republican Senate offices were not rushing to take responsibility f or a highly controversial and widely denounced memo -- conservative comm entators took to the airwaves and the Internet to suggest that the Schia vo memo was, in fact, a Democratic dirty trick. Syndicated radio host Ru sh Limbaugh pointed to a Democratic "opposition research office" and sta ted: "Apparently the explanation is it was forged! On NBC's The Chris Matthews Show, Tucker Carlson stated: "I think within a week or two it will become clear that it -- th at memo -- was a forgery, possibly written by Democrats on the Hill in a n effort to discredit Republicans." Executive editor Fred Barnes even wr ote in the Weekly Standard that this was another case of liberal media b ias: So rather than an example of aggressive reporting, the memo story turns out to be yet another instance of crude liberal bias, in this case agai nst both Republicans and those who fought to have Schiavo's feeding tub e restored. Fishkite Blog questions whether they are really talking points and al ludes to 60 Minutes scandal. And if they are talking points, why couldn't ABC News just interview any given Senate Republican, rather than "obtaining" them? Power Line blog asks, "Is This the Biggest Hoax Si nce the Sixty Minutes Story?" Most Senate and House memos are written on letterhead that show whose office they came from. Is it simply a one-page memo on blank white paper that purports to come from a Republican? If so, is there any reason to assume that it is genuine? Can anyone write an anonymous memo, and send it to 55 Republican Senators, with a copy to ABC News? Based on the fragments from the memo that w ere reported by the Post, I question its authenticity. It does not soun d like something written by a conservative; it sounds like a liberal fa ntasy of how conservatives talk. argues that evidence on the memo's authenticity puts the b urden on The Washington Post to prove the document is not a dirty trick. So, to sum up: The memo itself contains no clue as to its origins. the memo's contents are hardly appropriate for an anonymous communication. The fact that the memo appeared in Senator s' offices (or, for that matter, at ABC News) proves nothing, as anyone , including a Democratic dirty trickster, could have distributed it. Mi ke Allen of the Washington Post says he knows something he can't tell u s, but his only argument for why the memo is authentic--some Senators h ad it--is silly. Why would anyone mix political strategy points--the ones the Democrats want to talk about--with talking points for Senatorial argument? A com petent staffer preparing a talking points memo wouldn't do that, but a Democratic dirty trickster would. It is possible that som ewhere in the House or Senate there is a Republican staffer dumb enough to have produced and circulated it. The question, though, is: what is the evidence that the memo is genuine? An d, with all due respect to Mike Allen, "trust me" is no longer adequate proof. concludes it is "most likely" the memo was created by a De mocratic source. The first possibility is that it wa s created by a low-level Republican staffer. The second possibility is that the memo was created by a lobbying group, presumably the Traditional Values Coalition ... T he third possibility is that the memo is a Democratic dirty trick. Inside the Blogs": ABBI TATTON (CNN political producer): Now more on those Schiavo talking points that surfaced on Capitol Hill and got into the hands of reporter s over the weekend, then made their way onto the Web. 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