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2005/4/6-7 [Politics/Domestic/California, Reference/Tax] UID:37082 Activity:moderate
4/5     So it begins.  Welcome to the culture of death:
        http://www.nypost.com/postopinion/opedcolumnists/43933.htm
        \_ Big churches esp. Catholic, gives me this image of having a
           lot of clout like the ones mafias have. I would think that if
           pro-lifers seriously want her to live, [weathly] Churches like the
           ones in Utah would have no problem coming up with Save-a-Shiavo
           campaign. In addition, it would be a great public relationship
           stunt. The fact that none of the Churches offered a penny or
           had not organized any visible and successful campaign, shows you
           that either they don't give a damn, or that they're not as powerful
           as GodFather the movie portrays them to be.           -troll
        \_ WHY is it anyone not talking about bolemia and anorexia and other
           things that could have prevented Shiavo's death in the first
           place? I mean, an ounce of prevention is... you know.
        \_ i for one welcome our new culture of death overlords.
           \_ "Hail Death!"
        \_ How much of your tax money would you like to go toward keeping
           ABD (all but dead) people alive?  Would you rather that money
           went toward schools or prenatal care?  How much of your income
           would you like to pay in taxes?  As for me, if I am ABD, take
           the money and buy immunizations for the poor, and let me drop
           dead. --PeterM
           \_ The *real* question is *who* decides which people are ABD.
              \_ Who do you think is deciding now?  If you disagreed in
                 Schiavo's case, it was the doctors who decided she was
                 hopeless, and her guardian chose to end extraordinary
                 measures.  That seems the right way to me.
        \_ It is long past time for us as a society to have this discussion.
           I worked in a hospital and I used to watch doctors do stupid
           and expensive procedures on people who were obviously in their
           last few months of life.
           \_ And I've seen doctors not give a shit about whether someone lives
              or dies.  They're the ones we're bowing down to.
              \_ Where did you see a doctor like that? I worked in two different
                 hospitals for a total of 4 years and I never saw anything
                 close to resembling what you are describing.
                 \_ Radiation Oncology.
                    \_ This makes the case for a serious conversation about
                       how to handle these cases even more compelling.
        \_ We've always been a culture of death. Even those expousing the
           "Culture of Life" are enamored by death and have fetishized their
           beliefs to the point of ridiculousness.
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Reprint April 6, 2005 -- TERRI Schiavo's protracted death focused attention on th e right to die, but it should also spark some serious thinking about an equally vital and emotion-laden matter: the cost of keeping people like Schiavo, and those near death, alive. Certainly, this is a matter for families, who bear heavy emotional and fi nancial burdens and devote hours to caring for disabled family members. But it is also of concern to society, which subsidizes the costs. That's partly because New Yorkers are so compassionate, health-care union s so powerful and government so generous with other people's money. Think about it: Medicaid spending on long-term care in New York amounts t o some $14 billion a year or nearly a third of all Medicaid costs. Medicaid overall, meanwhile, has been carving huge craters in state and l ocal budgets. Counties and cities have rocketed up taxes and laid off workers to pay Me dicaid bills. The tax hikes, meanwhile, are throttling local economies. For people like Schiavo (and certainly folks more functional than her), s ubsidized long-term care may be the only morally defensible option. But what about the pain to public employees, like those in Erie, who lose their jobs? Or to residents denied sufficient police and firefighters? Or to firms forced to close, move or fire workers because of onerous Med icaid-fueled taxes? What about the millions of New Yorkers who must struggle to pay outrageou s tax bills to cover the costs of elderly or home-bound New Yorkers? Let's face it: Keeping people alive and providing for much, if not all, o f their long-term care takes a huge economic toll. Families can decide for themselves how much care they want to provide. Bu t when government foots the bill, a cold, dispassionate public debate of the costs is essential. And again, nowhere is that more urgent than in New York, which spends far more on long-term care than other states. Pataki announced "bold changes" to health care, including steps to encourage elderly and disab led patients to stay at home, rather than go to more expensive nursing h omes and hospitals. after all, many folks would rather remain home anyway if they could. A few million dollars in new spending with uncertain savings on the other end. Nor does Albany want to get serious about closing loopholes that allow ev en the not-so-poor to get long-term-care subsidies. If nothing else, the Schiavo affair was about letting individuals and the ir families make the hard choices about their fates. Schiavo's parents f ought relentlessly to keep their daughter alive. They opted to suffer de voting endless days to visits, arranging care, fighting legal battles. Some folks, by contrast, feel relief when a long-ill family member succum bs, mostly because the emotional strain ends. And if individuals and families are not responsible for costs, they'll never feel a need to have them stopped no matter how hopeless t he situation. In an era when science allows incapacitated, brain-damaged patients to li ve for years on a feeding tube, governments like the one in Albany canno t afford to hand out blank checks. Terri Schiavo reminded everyone that when it comes to care-dependent pati ents, public officials, too, must make some tough choices.