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ATM facade This has been a problem in various parts of the country for a couple of y ears already, but the San Francisco Examiner has something about a new s cam hitting the Bay Area: ATM fraud. Apparently thieves are building fak e front-ends for ATMs, complete with card readers, keypads, and mini-cam eras, in order to capture your ATM card and PIN (most ATMs are so janky that its hard to tell when youve got a fake one on your hands). To mak e sure you enter your PIN they also put up a sticker telling you to re-e nter your number in order to get your card back. Then, after youve give n up, the thieves retrieve your card and go to town. Its almost as bad as the scam where these guys bought real ATMs, put them in bodegas aroun d Manhattan, and then waited for unsuspecting people to insert their car ds and enter their PINs. Weve got tons of stuff lying around here that people might want .
Wonderkid Here in England, London more specifically, this is already common. I was on Edgeware Road and both myself and someone else were scammed in this w ay. I only lost my card, but the other guy lost 250 and was freaking ou t as he lost his card and his money. We actually saw two suspicious look ing characters running away from the area earlier but thought nothing of it as they could have just been kids larking about. Lond on is a haven for criminals as Tony Blair is focusing on oil money in Ir aq. There are NO police anywhere, just cameras which don't stop people a t the moment of the crime. They can be using those "creative talents" in a leagal way. This scam has been going on here in Holland for a while. They have decide d to put a sticker on the ATM showing how the original ATM looks like an d advises you if it does not look the same as in the sticker than dont u se it. My question is what would stop from someone making a different st icker to put on top of that to match their setup?
html 4 Posted Mar 29, 2005, 5:39 AM ET by Jan Aagaard The scammers here in Denmark have upped the technology a bit futher: They put on a fake cover over the numerical pad and the card reader so that when you use the machine they register your pin code alongside with the information on the magnetic stripe on the card. They are now able to cre ate exact copies of your credit card, and they know your pin code. The beauty of this scam is that the ATM works as normal, and you get both your credit card and your cash. The thieves can wait a couple of months before using the copy of your credit card, making it a lot more difficu lt for the police to track them down. The latest version of these fake covers used a really small card reader a nd a tiny web cam to read the pin code, in stead of the cover for the nu merical keypad. I got a call from my bank last week saying I had to come in to get a replacem ent card. When I get there I find out that it's because of this exact pr oblem. I'm just glad my bank was vigilant enough to keep me from losing any money.
Bryan Webster I agree with the london comments about this being rife here, however i th ink blaming the Iraq war is a bit over the top mate! The banks sure make enough money to invest a bit in upgraded technolo gy. Or is this only for the war on terror which is basically a war on pe ople who don't go along with a certain government ?
iceberg I was gonna agree with nojetlags comment about the bank upping the securi ty requirements, perhaps with biometric security features such as finger print or retina scans, but now I'm not so sure thats a good idea. The reason why is that if these machines can be so easily tampered with, and the machine's owners aren't vigilant to prevent it, who is to say th e crooks wont install dummy finger/retina scanners to capture themselves a copy of your bio ID? The potential for abuse will then grow stronger, even if they can't immediately put that data to practical use.
Posted Mar 29, 2005, 11:30 AM ET by Emily Would the ATMs at banks be more secure? There would be bank personnel on the premises, who could notice if their ATMs looked different.
Posted Mar 29, 2005, 12:41 PM ET by OddManOut "How about eye scan... JK - I doubt your eye would be viable for very long after it has been dug out. the machine just keeps it), but I've always been leary... The fake facades can aparently emul ate all different kinds of interfaces. Devious though it is, I find criminal inovation to be simply fascinating. But I agree with #3, criminal talent is just talent that is being poorl y channeled and could be put to more productive uses...
Posted Mar 29, 2005, 3:38 PM ET by creamofcow #13, out of self-consciousness or the fact that I'm usually holding a don ut in my other hand, I don't cover up the keypad with my other hand, but I go through a series of fake keystrokes where I pretend to hit keys. B een kinda paranoid ever since someone was caught with a video camera at an airport capturing ppl's phone card digits while pretending to be shoo ting their kids.
Posted Mar 29, 2005, 7:48 PM ET by pat Your retina's cloud over quite quickly after death. Its currently the mos t secure biometric security system.... They also tried to fake the retin a scans with digital photos but that didn't work.
Posted Mar 29, 2005, 9:38 PM ET by proee Here is an idea for you all: An an addition to the output of the machine that captures the real bills and delivers an equivalent amount in counterfit bills. Then, there is no need to use the persons credit card because you are just collecting the cash. When they wise up and bust you, you'll get nailed on two accounts - count erfiting and atm tampering! Add your comments Please keep your comments relevant to this blog entry: inappropriate or p urely promotional comments may be removed. Email addresses are never dis played, but they are required to confirm your comments. To create a live link, simply type the URL (including http://) or email address and we w ill make it a live link for you. Line breaks and paragraphs are automatically converted no need to use <p> or <br> tags. Your name (required): Your email address (required, will not be shown to the public): Your sites URL (optional): Do you want us to remember your personal information for next time?
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