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2005/3/22-24 [Reference/Military, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:36818 Activity:low
3/22    "We've found Jewish Nazis, gay Nazis, blacks who wanted to be white
        supremacists. The reason it isn't so unusual -- these are powerless
        people to whom images of powerful people are appealing."
        http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/22/school.shooting
        \_ The boy killed his 60 year old grandpa and his **30** year old gf.
           \_ Native Americans have big equipment.
        \_ Wears bullet proof vest during the killing spree before shooting
           himself to death. I mean, what's the point of wearing bullet proof
           vest?
           \_ Presumably to increase the odds that all but one bullet gets
              used on victims.
        \_ you know, we spend billions on the Iraq war to protect ourselves
           from terrorists, yet our own people terrorize ourselves. 86
           billion dollars spent on war is a lot of money that could have
           been spent on civic and social programs that might have prevented
           this tragedy. FUCK YOU GEORGE BUSH AND BUSH SUPPORTERS. I hope
           you guys go to hell and experience eternal sodomization by satan
           \_ Yeah, and had we spent that money on places like Afghanistan
              Syria and Iraq BEFORE 9/11 we could've prevented around 3000
              deaths. C'mon, people, are you forgetting the people who lost
              their lives because of terrorism?
                 \_ uh, yeah williamc, war in Iraq and Homeland Security
                    have made US much safer than before, I can just feel it
                    \_ To Canada with you!
                       \_ To Iraq with you, and you fight with the Army you
                          have, not with the Army you want!
           \_ But...what if they like it?
        \_ From http://www.nazi.org/nazi/national_socialism/judaism
           "thus we are supporters of the Zionist state, Israel, insofar as it
           confines its influence to its own activities."
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RED LAKE, Minnesota (CNN) -- A student authorities say killed seven p eople at his Minnesota high school first shot his grandfather and the ma n's girlfriend before taking his police-issued weapon, bulletproof vest and squad car to Red Lake Senior High School. FBI agents would not confirm reports that Weise had posted comments on a neo-Nazi Web site. But a person who posted on the site of the Libertarian National Socialist Green Party identified himself as "Jeff Weise, from the Red Lake 'India n' Reservation." The writer said he disliked interracial mixing among th e American Indians on the reservation where he lived. Federal investigators, however, said that while the postings may provide clues to the rampage, it was premature Tuesday to speculate on a motive. The shootings at the school appeared to be random, Tabman said. He said authorities believe Weise stole his grandfather's police-issued p istol and a shotgun, as well as a gunbelt and vest. 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Judaism Jews and Judaism Of all things that it did, the NSDAP is remembered best for the "Holocaust," or destruction of European Jewry. While clearly most Jews in Europe survived, and the only concrete evidence of mass extermination is from the Eastern European and Baltic states, it is likely that many Jews were killed when they were no longer useful as labor. The Libertarian National Socialist Green Party does not draw a moral conclusion from this, thus we cannot be its apologists: our view is that Jews must be addressed by the same racial policy as any other ethnic group. For a society to exist, it must be able to say "we do it this way here" (consensus) and exclude those who would reverse that process; they will start their own societies if they are sane and healthy and able. With this realization, healthy societies exclude those who wish to reverse its direction, recognizing that the order of nature is for them to found their own society according to their principles, and for time to tell how well it succeeds. Those who come into a society from outside and suggest it reverse its direction are parasites, probably not by their own intention; usually from failed societies, they are in the grip of neurotic thought and feel they will gain self-esteem if they can have the power that comes with re-ordering another civilization. However, this always occurs to the detriment of the civilization, as the ways advocated belong in a foreign society, and to take on its direction the civilization would have to reverse its own. Such is the case of the influence of Judaism in Western culture. While Indo-European society upheld an ideal of inner strength and growth, Judaism upheld material comfort as the highest goal of any group, and thus placed a greater value on individual survival than collective comfort: this is a passive and utilitarian belief. The origins of this in Judaism probably date back to its earliest existence as a society of traders, in which consensus was difficult, and it is fair to say that compassion toward the Jewish people is appropriate, as they were first to taste the bite of the blade called passivity/utilitarianism that is currently eating our own society. With this in mind, LNSG policy toward Jews and Judaism was formed: all alien populations must be repatriated to their own lands, thus we are supporters of the Zionist state, Israel, insofar as it confines its influence to its own activities. We are however not inclined to intervene against Arab states, as we believe they deserve national independence as well, nor are we inclined to tolerate Jews or Judaic thought among us. However, we do not belief in cruelty or brutality toward the Jewish people, and would suggest that our break from the NSDAP is in part exemplified by our belief that they should be lovingly sent on to their homeland, as there are many good people among them. Looking through Western history, however, it becomes clear that Jewish contributions to the arts of Indo-Europeans reveal a lack of understanding of what is fundamental to the Western soul, and therefore are inappropriate among us. The risk is that they, because by virtue of being different they are agitating for a reverse of the course of our civilization, will be blamed for the utilitarian philosophy that holds them in its grip, and thus will succumb to pogroms and other forms of retribution. The LNSG believes that revenge, retribution and hatred are destructive to political discourse, and thus takes a strong stand against anti-Semitism and violence against Jews. However, we also believe that there is no way for people with a Jewish ethnic and cultural identity to exist among us, thus they must be deported to their homeland, Israel, with our blessing.