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3/7     What are people's opinions on the Italian intelligence agent who was
        shot by US soldiers?  All reports seem to be fuzzy at best.
        \_ Not intentional.  All Italians driving to the airport and getting
           shot just before they got there, means they likely got an OK with
           some Americans on the way out, whether officers or CIA, even with
           the reports to the contrary ("They didn't tell us they were
           coming!" -- this is unlikely).  Probably some grunt in a mechanized
           platoon on patrol (not necessarily a checkpoint) freaked out when
           he saw the car full of buff brown people, screamed out to his
           squadmates, "INCOMING BOMBER", someone lit up the search light, and
           blew the car fucking away.  It was night after all.
           Naturally, those who would know best (the Italian intelligence
           officers and the soldiers who opened fire) are all cogs in the
           Machine and cannot speak.
           \_ it's clear that our sharp shooting Republican hick boys from
              Kentucky can't tell the difference between Italian and Iraqi
              language.
              \_ You're the Italians.  Are you screaming "We're Italians!"
                 because you saw the patrol a long ways ahead while not hitting
                 the fucking brakes, or are you screaming "We're Italian you
                 dicks!" because you're getting blown to pieces before you even
                 got the chance to brake?
                 \_ I scream "I'm jctwu don't shoot!"
                 \_ What's the fucking difference? Our country music listening
                    Bush loving armed forces can't tell the difference between
                    "Ala Akbar" and "Non Spari!"
                    \_ The difference is some sodan's incorrect assumption
                       that the inability of coalition soldiers to understand
                       Italian was a non-negligible reason for what happened.
        \_ From what I've read, she claims 300+ bullets were fired but pics
           of her car don't show any damage at all and it seems that the
           dude who was driving was killed by a single bullet. Unless the
           troops guarding that checkpoint were replaced w/ Imperial Storm
           Troopers, her story seems a bit fishy.
           \_ It's even worse than that.  First she says it was at a check
              point, then she says it wasn't.  (This should be easy to
              verify)  First she says they were driving slow, now in
              yesterday's article in her paper, she talks about how fast
              they were going.  (Almost losing control to avoid puddles,
              and yes, she says they were "suddenly attacked" going that
              fast. )  etc. She can't get her own story straight.  She
              talks about being able to pick up "handfuls of bullets" off
              the back seat, which is obvious BS.  She's a liar.  I had
              sympathy, but she's lost me.
              \_ Why do you think her claim to picking up "handfuls of bullets"
                 is obvious BS?
                 Don't you think the people who were with her could easily,
                 so easily refute this?
           \_ Your information is old.
              http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/weblog.php
              Search for "Maybe all 400 bullets missed?"
              Are you a moron?
              A guy died with a bullet to his temple, and the windshield
              in that photo isn't even cracked.
              Do you always believe the blogs over using your brain?
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Preferences Visitors Online: 863 Today Total: 3,078 Unique: 2,534 Yesterday Total: 133,486 Unique: 107,633 Comments: 1,436,027 Today: 13 Yesterday: 3,076 donate Help keep Little Green Footballs bouncing by donating whatever you can. february 2001 support lgf You don't have to pay to read LGF. But if you enjoy what we'r e doing here and you'd like to show your appreciation, you can use the A mazon or PayPal links below to drop some change in our tip jar and help us buy some groceries. The victim, Mukhtar Mai, also attended the rally in Multan, a major city in the eastern province of Punjab. Waving signs and chanting, the demonstrators, many of them from nearby v illages, joined the rally. Organizer Farzana Bari said more than 3,000 women were at the event. We will fight for justice for Mukhtar Mai, the women chanted during th e rally, while others carried placards reading: Give protection to Muk htar Mai Some 200 policemen observed the demonstration, which ended peacefully. In June 2002, Mai said she was raped by four men on the orders of a vill age council that wanted to punish her family. Mais brother was accused of having sex with a woman from a more promine nt family, though Mais family says the allegations were fabricated to cover up a sexual assault against the boy by several men. See, thats where there was an IED, my driver Ahmad said, using the mi litarys shorthand for improvised explosive device. He pointed to the charred shell of a car sitting a few feet off the shou lder. Last summer I was here, driving from the airport, and suddenly, Boom! I said, Its OK, its OK and then ever yone began shooting the Americans, the Iraqis over there, he said, g esturing to the nearby neighborhood. On this route, its hard to know whether a car that speeds by a military convoy simply has a nervous driver, or carries a suicide bomber. Last fall, a bomber on the road targeted an armored bus carrying US person nel. 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