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2/22 What is your career?
\_ Manager
\_ Software Engineer: .....
\_ Design Verification Engineer
\_ SysAdmin .
\_ Teacher .
\_ Consultant ..
\_ that's not a career. you have to say what you consult on.
\_ Actually, I agree. Maybe the original poster should delete
the Consultant line, and I'll move my dot somewhere else.
\_ Don't be dense. I get hired as Victor-Nettoyeur by
companies with annoying problems that they can't or don't
want to deal with by themselves, and which can't be
classified as purely "engineering" or "management" or
"astronaut" or whatever, even though it's usually something
to do with IT security. If it makes you happy I'll change
it to "Professionally adaptible tech whore". -John
\_ Well, "IT security consultant" would be a career I guess
but "consultant" says nothing. There are all kinds of
consultants even outside tech.
\_ Professionally adaptible tech whore .
\_ White male oppressor .
\_ Student .
\_ I'm a graduate student who takes YOUR tax money to advance my own
education while spending ~15hr/wk reading and writing motd. What
category do I fall into?
\_ I'd say the Not Funny category.
\_ It can't be the !psb category
\_ Might it be our favorite government funded "libertarian"?
-meyers
\_ And if you try to do something about it, your government
will punish you!
\_ your tax dollar (NSF, grant, DARPA, etc) soon to be gone:
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/02/21/bush.science.ap
DAMN IT! Maybe We need to get real jobs soon. -grad student
\_ Bad troll. If you're just interested in number one,
our present totally broken visa system is in your best
interest, since it cuts down on competition from talented
foreign students. Bush's moronic, politically driven
science policy is bad for the nation, but it really
doesn't hurt you as a grad student.
\_ Actually, the NY Times last week printed an editorial
saying that the visa system for international students
and scientists has recently been greatly streamlined.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/16/opinion/16wed3.html
\_ Whatever. I'll believe it when I see it. I work in
a lab where about half of the scientists are non-U.S.
citizens, and dealing with the U.S. visa system
continues to be a total fucking nightmare.
\- The Economist says the opposite.
\_ Assuming you're talking about the article
"On the turning away", you need to re-read the
article. These two articles are talking in
different time frames. -jrleek
\_ Very true, thanks for pointing this out. By cutting down
savages and foreign competition, Manifest Destiny shall
be reborn. GWB is proclaiming a message of hope and
deliverance for White Christian America. God Bless GWB
and John Ashcroft. -conservative
\_ Are you a citizen? The military-industrial complex is in
dire need of software engineers, not as if you're probably
not already funded by it:
http://www.phdcomics.com/comics/archive.php?comicid=541
The funniest part is that this is true.
\_ Yeah, my PC hippie grad student tenant, who is married
to the peace activist grad school drop-out hippie wife,
just took a job with a CIA funded corp because they were
the only ones willing to hire a linguist in his field
of expertise.
\_ Scientist: ...
\_ Slacker: .
\_ Tax Payer:
\_ Music Industry: .
\_ Help Desk Specialist and Unix SysAdmin
\_ Help Desk pecialist and Unix SysAdmin
\_ Our company is the leading provider of ircII scripts for
Fortune 500 executives.
\- Gigolo -ok, thnk
\_ Househusband: . |
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| www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/02/21/bush.science.ap -> www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/02/21/bush.science.ap/ WASHINGTON (AP) -- The voice of science is being stifled in the Bush admi nistration, with fewer scientists heard in policy discussions and money for research and advanced training being cut, according to panelists at a national science meeting. Speakers at the national meeting of the American Association for Advancem ent of Science expressed concern Sunday that some scientists in key fede ral agencies are being ignored or even pressured to change study conclus ions that don't support policy positions. The speakers also said that Bush's proposed 2005 federal budget is slashi ng spending for basic research and reducing investments in education des igned to produce the nation's future scientists. And there also was concern that increased restrictions and requirements f or obtaining visas is diminishing the flow to the US of foreign-born s cience students who have long been a major part of the American research community. Rosina Bierbaum, dean of the University of Michigan School of Natural Res ources and Environment, said the Bush administration has cut scientists out of some of the policy-making processes, particularly on environmenta l issues. "In previous administrations, scientists were always at the table when re gulations were being developed," she said. "Science never had the last v oice, but it had a voice." Issues on global warming, for instance, that achieved a firm scientific c onsensus in earlier years are now being questioned by Bush policy makers . Proven, widely accepted research is being ignored or disputed, she sai d Government policy papers issued prior to the Bush years moved beyond ques tioning the validity of global warming science and addressed ways of con fronting or dealing with climate change. Under Bush, said Bierbaum, the questioning of the proven science has beco me more important than finding ways to cope with climate change. One result of such actions, said Neal Lane of Rice University, a former d irector of the National Science Foundation, is that "we don't really hav e a policy right now to deal with what everybody agrees is a serious pro blem." Among scientists, said Lane, "there is quite a consensus in place that th e Earth is warming and that humans are responsible for a considerable pa rt of that" through the burning of fossil fuels. And the science is clear, he said, that without action to control fossil fuel use, the warming will get worse and there will be climate events th at "our species has not experienced before." Asked for comment, White House spokesman Ken Lisaius said, "The president makes policy decisions based on what the best policies for the country are, not politics. Kurt Gottfried of Cornell University and the Union of Concerned Scientist s said a survey of scientists in the US Fish and Wildlife Service foun d that about 42 percent said they felt pressured to not report publicly any findings that do not agree with Bush policies on endangered species. He said almost a third of the Fish and Wildlife researchers said they wer e even pressured not to express within the agency any views in conflict with the Bush policies. "This administration has distanced itself from scientific information," s aid Gottfried. He said this is part of a larger effort to let politics d ominate pure science. He said scientists in the Environmental Protection Agency have been press ured to change their research to keep it consistent with the Bush politi cal position on environmental issues. Because of such actions, he said, it has become more difficult for federa l agencies to attract and retain top scientific talent. This becomes a c ritical issue, said Gottfried, because about 35 percent of EPA scientist s will retire soon and the Bush administration can "mold the staff" of t he agency through the hiring process. Federal spending for research and development is significantly reduced un der the proposed 2005 Bush budget, the speakers said. She said the National Science Foundation funds for graduate students and for kindergarten through high school education has been slashed. NASA has gotten a budget boost, but most of the new money will be going t o the space shuttle, space station and Bush's plan to explore the moon a nd Mars. What is suffering is the space agency's scientific research eff orts, she said. "Moon and Mars is basically going to eat everybody's lunch," she said. Lane said Bush's moon and Mars exploration effort has not excited the pub lic and has no clear goals or plans. He said Bush's moon-Mars initiative "was poorly carried out and the budge t is not there to do the job so science (at NASA) will really get hurt." |
| www.nytimes.com/2005/02/16/opinion/16wed3.html Sanity on Visas for Students (NYT) Editorial 296 words Late Edition - Final , Section A , Page 20 , Column 1 ABSTRACT - Editorial lauds State Dept for making changes to speed up visa process for foreign students and scientists who want to study in US and who have been held up in needless red tape in wake of 9/11 terrorist attacks Please Note: Archive articles do not include photos, charts or graphics. Our photos are available for purchase, please click here for more information. |
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