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2/9 Ok you pinkos. Tell me why we should support him? Free speech?
Ripping on the dead is free speech?! I esp like how he says he
doesn't work for the taxpayers of CO. Who else pays his salary?
The "students" ? Future commie pinkos.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/09/colorado.prof.ap/index.html
\_ Is David Horowitz a pinko?
"David Horowitz, a champion of conservative causes who has long
accused American universities of overstocking their faculties with
leftists, has said firing Churchill would violate his First
Amendment rights and set a bad precedent." Supporting someones
*right* to make an ass of themselves is not the same as supporting
them. David Horowitz can understand that, why can't you?
\_ Anyone to the left of John Birch is an America hating
communist.
\_ *righteous indignation*! *spittle*! ...happy now?
\_ He's an asshole, but you have to be an asshole to get your point
across when everyone else is whistling the Star Spangled Banner
and waving flags and shushing anyone who speaks ill of American
foreign policy. If he'd published an essay in which he took the
US to task for its corporate-profit-driven foreign policy and its
hypocritical refusal to forgive the massive debts owed it by the
very countries it bankrupted, you would never have heard his name.
\_ You probably agree with this commie liberal lawyer-scum
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/10/terror.trial.ap/index.html
"To rid ourselves of the entrenched, voracious type of
capitalism that is in this country that perpetuates sexism
and racism, I don't think that can come nonviolently."
\_ Well, since the Holocaust didn't happen, comparing them to Eichmann
isn't so bad. -tom
\_ So is this someone trying to make tom look bad (like that's
necessary) or tom making a point I don't follow?
\_ I'm pointing out that there are wingnuts on both sides. -tom
\_ Both sides? Holocaust deniers are conservative? And
do Holocaust deniers have tenure? -- ilyas
\_ Are you trying to say Holocaust denial is a conservative
opinion? Apparently, you're an idiot on a scale I never
before imagined.
\_ Wow, this guy got way more protection in his speech than
conservative speakers at Berkeley every do.
conservative speakers at Berkeley ever do.
\_ churchill never spoke at berkley, what you talk about
\_ Never said he did. In the linked article it talks
about his talk at some other college.
\_ do you mean security wise? maybe berkeley students
aren't stupid enough to attack conservative speakers?
\_ When David Duke spoke on campus, there was blood
on the sidewalk from both sides. My communist roommate
said the other side started it, but he showed up with
a roll of quarters, and both sides were expecting a
fight. That was about 10 years ago, I think.
\_ Never said he did. In the linked article it talks about his
talk at some other college.
\_ do you mean security wise? maybe berkeley students aren't stupid
enough to attack conservative speakers?
\_ When David Duke spoke on campus, there was blood on the
sidewalk from both sides. My communist roommate said the
other side started it, but he showed up with a roll of
quarters, and both sides were expecting a fight. That was
about 10 years ago, I think.
\_ "He started it after I hit him!"
\_ david duke spoke at berkeley? i don't remember
that. anyway he should get his head smashed in.
\_ david duke spoke at berkeley? i don't remember that. anyway
he should get his head smashed in.
\_ heh, right.
\_ Gee, I haven't seen Berkeley try to fire a tenured professor for
being conservative. -tom
\_ That's because they simply don't give them tenure.
\_ BS. My Chem 1 prof spent three lectures telling us
how great nuclear power was. There are lots of
conservative profs at Berkeley, but most of them
are in the sciences. -MCB grad
\_ Uh, liking nuclear power = conservative? Maybe you
should let peterm know. -- ilyas
\_ Yes, in America being pro-nuclear power is considered
a conservative position. Just as being anti-abortion,
anti-gay marriage, pro-gun rights, etc. I don't
decide these things, by the way, but I do know
enough about American politics to be able to
report them accurately. Very few people are 100%
in line with the stereotypical view of their
politics.
\_ So you concluded from the one position he did take
he was a conservative? Good job you. -- ilyas
he was a conservative? Good job you. Almost
every single liberal friend of mine here on soda
would prefer nuclear power over oil dependence.
-- ilyas
\_ He did not get fired for being a conservative,
even though he used his position of authority
to lecture to 4000 students off topic on a
conservative topic. And yes, he was
conservative in other ways as well.
\_ This guy:
http://www.polisci.berkeley.edu/Faculty/bio/emeriti/Muir,W
is an irritating conservative. |
| www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02/09/colorado.prof.ap/index.html BOULDER, Colorado (AP) -- A University of Colorado professor who likened September 11 victims to Nazis got a standing ovation when he told a camp us audience of more than 1,000 people that "I'm not backing up an inch." Ward Churchill, who had filed a lawsuit after the state university threat ened to cancel his address, was interrupted several times by thunderous applause. Churchill has resigned as chairman of the university's ethnic studies dep artment. Bill Owens has called for Churchill to be fired, and the u niversity's Board of Regents is investigating whether the tenured profes sor can be removed. I do not answer to the Board of Regents in the way they think I do. The regents should do their job and let me do mine," Churchill said to thunderous clapping. In an essay, Churchill wrote that workers in the World Trade Center were the equivalent of "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who ensured the smooth running of the Nazi system. Churchill also spoke of the "gallant sacrifices" of the "combat teams" that struck America. The ethnic studies professor said Tuesday his essay was referring to "tec hnocrats" who participate in what he calls repressive American policies around the world. A longtime American Indian Movement activist, he said he is also culpable because his efforts to change the system haven't succeeded. The Boulder Faculty Assembly, which represents professors at the Boulder campus, has said Churchill's comments were "controversial, offensive and odious" but supports his right to say them based on the principle of ac ademic freedom. During his 35-minute speech, Churchill said the essay was not referring t o children, firefighters, janitors or people passing by the World Trade Center who were killed during the attacks. The essay and follow-up book attracted little attention until Churchill w as invited to speak last month at Hamilton College in Clinton, New York, which later canceled his talk out of security concerns. University of Colorado officials cited those same concerns but backed off after Churchill filed a lawsuit earlier Tuesday asking a judge to force the school to let him speak. The crowd Tuesday night was loud and orderly as Churchill spoke: "I do no t work for the taxpayers of the state of Colorado. About two dozen police officers were scattered inside and around the ball room where the speech was given. "I've read some of Ward's work," said 26-year-old Vinita Laroia, an envir onmental studies major. I wanted to hear his actual voice say what he's thinking." The ACLU issued a statement defending Churchill's right to speak out and called on regents, legislators and the governor "to stop threatening Mr Churchill's job because of the content of his opinions." David Horowitz, a champion of conservative causes who has long accused Am erican universities of overstocking their faculties with leftists, has s aid firing Churchill would violate his First Amendment rights and set a bad precedent. He called instead for an inquiry into the university's hiring and promoti on procedures to see how Churchill managed to rise to the chairmanship o f the school's ethnic studies department. |
| www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/02/10/terror.trial.ap/index.html NEW YORK (AP) -- A veteran civil rights lawyer was convicted Thursday of smuggling messages of violence from one of her jailed clients -- a radic al Egyptian sheik -- to his terrorist disciples on the outside. The jury had deliberated 13 days over the past month before convicting Ly nne Stewart, 65, a firebrand, left-wing activist known for representing radicals and revolutionaries in her 30 years on the New York legal scene . Stewart faces up to 20 years in prison on charges that include conspiracy , giving material support to terrorists and defrauding the US governme nt. Minutes before the verdict was read, Stewart said she felt "nervous. When she heard the pronouncement, Stewart began shakin g her head and wiping her eyes. The courtroom was filled with her suppor ters, who gasped. She will remain free on bail, but must stay in New Yor k, until her July 15 sentencing. The trial focused attention on the line between zealous advocacy and crim inal behavior by a lawyer. Some defense lawyers saw the case as a govern ment warning to attorneys to tread carefully in terrorism cases. The jury also convicted a US postal worker, Ahmed Abdel Sattar, of plot ting to "kill and kidnap persons in a foreign country" by publishing an edict urging the killing of Jews and their supporters. A third defendant , Arabic interpreter Mohamed Yousry, was convicted of providing material support to terrorists. Sattar could face life in prison and Yousry up t o 20 years. Stewart was the lawyer for Omar Abdel-Rahman, a blind sheik sentenced to life in prison in 1996 for conspiring to assassinate Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak and destroy several New York landmarks, including the UN building and the Lincoln and Holland Tunnels. Stewart's co-defendants a lso had close ties to Abdel-Rahman. Prosecutors said Stewart and the others carried messages between the shei k and senior members of a Egyptian-based terrorist organization, helping spread Abdel-Rahman's venomous call to kill those who did not subscribe to his extremist interpretation of Islamic law. At the time, the sheik was in solitary confinement in Minnesota under spe cial prison rules to keep him from communicating with anyone except his wife and his lawyers. Prosecutor Andrew Dember argued that Stewart and her co-defendants essent ially "broke Abdel-Rahman out of jail, made him available to the worst k ind of criminal we find in this world -- terrorists." Stewart, who once represented Weather Underground radicals and mob turnco at Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, repeatedly declared her innocence, maintain ing she was unfairly targeted by overzealous prosecutors. But she also testified that she believed violence was sometimes necessary to achieve justice: "To rid ourselves of the entrenched, voracious type of capitalism that is in this country that perpetuates sexism and racis m, I don't think that can come nonviolently." A major part of the prosecution's case was Stewart's 2000 release of a st atement withdrawing the sheik's support for a cease-fire in Egypt by his militant followers. Prosecutors, though, could point to no violence tha t resulted from the statement. Videotape of prison conversations between Stewart and the sheik also were played for jurors -- recordings the defense denounced as an intrusion i nto attorney-client privilege. |
| www.polisci.berkeley.edu/Faculty/bio/emeriti/Muir,W -> www.polisci.berkeley.edu/Faculty/bio/emeriti/Muir,W/ com Office Hours: Term/Course: photo of Professor Muir Professor Muir teaches in the fields of American Politics and Constitutional Law. He received his BA (magna cum laude) and PhD from Yale University. His publications include The Bully Pulpi t: The Presidential Leadership of Ronald Reagan (Conservative Book Club Alternate Selection, 1993), Legislature: California's School for Politic s (Choice Academic Book of the Year, 1982), Police: Streetcorner Politic ians (Honorable mention, Washington Monthly Political Book of the Year; Pulitizer Prize nominee, 1977), and Law and Attitude Change (American Po litical Science Association's Edwin S Corwin Prize, 1967). Born: October 30, 1931, Detroit, Michigan Married to Paulette Mauters Muir Children: Kerry, 37, and Hattie, 33 Career Professor of Political Science, University of California, Berkeley, 1968-1998 (Department Chairman, 1980-1983; Phi Beta Kappa, Northern California, Excellence in Teaching Award, 1994; Distinguished Visiting Scholar, Hawaii Pacific University, 2000; Visiting Professor of Political Science, Harvard University summer school, 1976, 1979; Instructor of Political Science, Yale University, 1961-1967; Instructor of Law, University of Michigan Law School, 1958-1959; Republican Candidate, California State Legislature (14th Assembly District), 1996; Campaign Writer, governor of the State of California (Pete Wilson), 1994; Speechwriter, Vice President of the United States (George Bush), 1983-85; Commissioner, Berkeley (California) Police Review Commission, 1968-1972; Senior Consultant, California State Legislature, Assembly Committee on Finance, Insurance, and Commerce, 1975-1976; Consultant, Oakland (California) Police Department and Civil Service Commission, 1968-1972; Attorney, Tyler Cooper Grant Bowerman & Keefe, New Haven, Connecticut, 1964-1968 (partner, 1967-1968); Attorney, Davis Polk Wardwell Sunderland & Keindl, New York, New York, 1959-1960. |