1/28    What is your favorite lightweight terminal program?
        \_ SecureCRT, the best. Putty, second.
           \_ Terminal.app, SecureCRT, Putty.
                \_ how does Terminal.app compare with SecureCRT?
           \_ Sorry I mean for *nix. I find xterm too slow, and rxvt buggy.
              \_ uh, xterm?
              \_ stop running your *nix on a 25MHz i386 PC.
              \_ Is xterm's slowness caused by xterm or by X?
                 \_ I don't know, but it seems faster than last time.
              \_ Terminal.app
           \_ Agreeing 100%
        \_ I don't have a favorite but I'll tell you what I hate. I hate
           HPUX's stupid default CDE and their lame ass terminal. Their
           mouse bindings don't conform to anything else and their GUI
           simply sucks.
           \_ Solaris had CDE (and dtterm) as a default, too. So if you
              hate HPUX you also hate Solaris. Personally, I don't mind CDE.
              \_ yeah but HP started it first, back in the mid 1990s and
                 all the other lame ass vendors followed them.
                 \_ I actually worked on CDE -- It was DEC, USL (Unix system
                    laboratories), IBM, Sun and HP I believe.  They basically
                    cobbled together various bits from each company together
                    into a windowing system ... I think the goal was to have
                    a universal one to counter Micro$oft's claim of "UNIX
                    fragmentation"
                    \_ wow, you guys sure showed M$ that you kick ass!
                    \_ CDE was lifted from HP VUE.  VUE sucked, but then so
                       do most things HP.  In fact, OSF adopted CDE in the
                       early '90s, before the OSF/USL merger.  Sun was a
                       member of USL and was never a member of OSF.  For the
                       locally minded, OSF was originally called the Hamilton
                       Group, after the DEC Hamilton building (at the corner
                       of Hamilton and Alma in Palo Alto) where the early
                       OSF meetings were held.  That building was subsequently
                       leased by Sun for work on Green Door, after DEC vacated
                       the site.
                        \_ GO MICROSOFT!!!              -undergrad