1/24    Why doesn't the motd, the csua FAQ, or policies/motd have
        information about how to write to the motd without clobbering
        others' musings?
        \_ csua doesn't recognize motd.public officially. There was a time
           when it was publicized on the main web site but some prick decided
           to take it out.
           \_ named paolo,pst,pollux
              \_ Because random hosers were trolling with incredibly offensive
                 anti-muslim diatribes, which were starting to appear in
                 google, and, despite the weak ``not the opinions of the csua,
                 blah blah blah'' disclaimer, this would likely have landed
                 the csua in deep shit for falling afoul of campus and asuc
                 hate speech rules.  Given the context of the decision, it was
                 a good one, one that the entire politburo weighed in on.
                 -dans
                 \_ Well kchang has a pretty hilarious catchphrase on his
                    motd archive that's appended to anything potentially
                    offensive.  And having motd.public but not putting
                    anything in the newuser guide what it's about is on the
                    bad side of cretinous, no matter what the original
                    justification is.  Essentially, you're saying that the
                    CSUA allows something to exist, but refuses to either
                    provide instructions on how to use it, or to permit others
                    to create such instructions on how to use it that can be
                    easily RTFM'ed by new members.  Dumb dumb dumb.  -John
                    \_ well my original intention was to store only useful
                       tech stuff, like Linux and such. It's sad to see most
                       of the stuff archived in the past 2-3 years are
                       trolls/political trash.                  -kchang
                       \_ Problem easily solved -- delete the trolls from the
                          archive.  -- ilyas
                          \_ you were not around when psb and I had this same
                             discussion. I was going to delete them, but
                             psb stopped me from doing so. For one, the auto
                             categorizer's not 100% proof and there may be
                             stuff erroneously deleted. The other debate had
                             to do with integrity and credibility of
                             Kais Motd. But most importantly, psb said so.
                             So all the political posts today exist thanks
                             to psb.                            --kchang
                    \_ John, that's not what I'm saying at all.  I was just
                       explaining the actual history behind *why* motd.public
                       is no longer one link down from the CSUA home page.  As
                       for lack of instructions that may be easily RTFM'ed, I
                       don't think the CSUA README or FAQ that appear in new
                       user accounts have been updated in in years (though I'd
                       be very happy if I was wrong about that fact). -dans
                 \_ that was 2001, and we were at war. Things are different
                    now, how about reverting the decision in the next csua
                    meeting? jvarga? paolo? anyone?
                    \_ Actually, that was 2001 and we were not at war.  We
                       didn't go to war until after September 11, and we don't
                       appear to have achieved any of the objectives of the
                       subsequent warmongering.  Oops, sorry for introducing
                       facts into the discussion.  And if you want the
                       politburo to change the policy, why not *gasp* attend a
                       politburo meeting and ask them yourself? -dans
                        \_ I wouldn't mind except the drive is 400 miles
                           \_ politburo@csua still works.
                    \_ Do you still call them Freedom Fries?
                 \_ I thought Politburo closed the motd / removed motd.public
                    because a soda user felt threateaned by the "kill all
                    muslims" post.  The CSUA getting in trouble with the
                    University issue seemed more peripheral.
                    \_ One particular politburo member yanked it because he
                       and/or his girlfriend were offended.
                       \_ He should have just set up a script to delete the
                          MOTD every 3 minutes instead.  -tom
                       \_ I think paolo is the only person capable of trolling
                          the motd without posting to it.  Are you guys going
                          to be ranting about this in 2011?
                          \_ In September especially.
           \_ If CSUA doesn't recognize it, why does it still copy its content
              to motd.public?
                       \_ Wow.  Your ability to rewrite history to your liking
                          in the absence of actual facts must provide you with
                          limitless hours of amusement. -dans
           \_ If CSUA doesn't recognize motd.public, why does it still copy its
              content to motd?