1/20 So it turns out Michael Moore doesn't want you to have a gun, but his
bodyguard can have one. And it doesn't even have to be licensed.
http://csua.org/u/as0
\_ Who said he doesn't want you to have a gun? You're a fucking idiot.
\_ Hahahaha, are you watching the same documentaries with your
eyes open? Did you see Bowling for Columbine? Did you see the
part where he got K-Mart to stop selling bullets? What kind of
chimpee are you? Next time, actually WATCH the documentary
and keep your eyes OPEN and use that stuff between your eyes
to RECORD in your MEMORY on what happened. I don't know what
other type of action would qualify you more to be a pro-gun
regulation person. Also, it's somewhat ironic that he's afraid
now and requires a bodygaurd when the whole message behind
now and requires a bodyguard when the whole message behind
Columbine and Fahrenheit 9/11 was that fearmongering was
generated by the Repubs and WASP America. The mere fact that
he has a bodyguard pretty much undermines his message.
\_ Dude, did we watch the same documentary? He's not anti-gun,
he's anti-gun lobby and anti-gun-stupidity. It's not a binary
world out there.
\_ Dude, talk about splitting hairs. That's like saying "
well, I'm not anti-gay, I just don't support gay marriage."
Dude, you're ANTI-GAY. So he's ANTI-GUN. Okay?
Okay. (Who the hell are these fucking morons who post
on the motd anyway?)
\_ I am not anti-gay but I don't support gay marriage.
(I support government recognized unions between
arbitrary sets of people, for bureaucratic purposes,
and private religious institutions of marriage between
whoever -- as long as you can find a priest to marry you).
I do not support gay marriage under the current use of
the term marriage in our society.
... Having said that. Does anyone here actually believe
Moore believes in the interpretation of the 2nd amend.
which states private citizens can own guns? If so,
can I get a quote of his to this effect, rather than
idle speculation, or post hoc reasoning to justify
the fact that he has an armed bodyguard? -- ilyas
\_ I think not, but I'm pretty sure you couldn't find
one where he explicitly advocates banning guns
either. I think the reason that Bowling for
Columbine was an interesting movie, while F911
was total horseshit was that it asked more questions
than it answered. Ignoring the bloviating dickhead
above, Bowling for Columbine never really advocated
any particular position on gun control. In fact
his whole point in talking about canada in the movie
was that they all have guns, but have a lot less
gun violence, in contradiction to the guns=violence
theory.
\_ I don't know, I think he asked fairly leading
questions (why not do things the Gandhi way?).
Of course, he may just have been trolling...
in which case he was using rhetoric (in the
dirty word sense found in Plato). -- ilyas
\_ I think "trolling" is actually a perfect
description of what Micheal Moore does, and
I think creative trolling really works in
certain circumstances. This whole thread
is the response to a troll. In F911 he
crossed the line from troll to one of those
long, disconnected rants that get moved
to /csua/tmp/looneytoon or whatever.
\_ Your position is pretty dumb. There's these thingies
called 'rights' which are granted by this other thingy
called 'The Bill of Rights'. It is possible to dislike
one person or group's implementation of those rights, or
the nature of a group's constituency while still fully
believing in the rights granted. This isn't splitting
hairs, it's one of the benefits of education (well,
theoretically anyhow) -- it's called 'critical thinking'
\_ So if you don't believe that everyone has the right to
carry M16s in public, you are "anti-gun"? I thought
Mr. Moore was a big-time gun rights supporter!
\_ "Mr. Moore"?
\_ "Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than
to speak and remove all doubt." -Abe Lincoln
\_ Let's see: I don't like you, so I must be a
misanthropist.
\_ He got K-Mart to stop selling bullets? Then he's just anti-
bullet, not anti-gun! :-)
\_ After all the death threat's against him posted to Free Republic,
he needs an armed bodyguard.
\_ That's what the police are for.
\_ All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others.
\_ add Feinstein, Boxer and Schumer...
\_ And State Senate Pro Tempore Don Peralta. They all have
\_ Perata
personal concealed carry licenses but don't you to have it.
\_ Dude, RTFA: Moore has nothing to do with this nut having or not
having a gun. The guy's a contract bodyguard, not part of Moore's
retinue. "Burk has been assigned to protect Moore at times in the
past, but is not his personal bodyguard, Gavin de Becker [Burk's
boss] said." Nice troll, though, lots of cookies. |