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1/13 Flying water to the tsunami victims from the opposite side of the
globe:
http://www.bart.gov/news/features/features20050107.asp
The fuel is going to cost much more than the water. What a waste of
resource.
\_ yeah, definitely stop buying Perrier too
\_ I drink 2 bottles a day and I _have_ stopped buying Perrier,
Apollinaris, and other imported minneral waters. At over $2 for a
1L bottle it's becoming kind of overpriced when you can buy
Calistoga for almost 2x less. Granted, I suspect the falling
dollar has to do more with it.
\_ Uh....doesn't it bother you at all that most cities have
higher standards for their tap water than that bottled
stuff, and that it's free? You could just put tap water
in a bottle. That's what I do.
\_ Tap water is definitely not "free"
\_ In Alameda County (ACWD), it's about $0.002 per gallon.
\_ but tap water doesn't have sparkles in it.
\_ Hey, if it's not Kaballah (TM) water, it's not worth it.
\_ We import crap even though we could build it here because it saves
pennies. Fuel for transportation is cheap ... for now ...
\_ Fuel for sea transport is cheap, but this is airlifting.
\_ You can admit you don't know what you're talking about any
time, you know. Getting water to an area with no clean water
is something that needs to happen _now_ish. Sea transport
would take too long to do any good.
\_ Oh come on, what could be the probelm with drinking a
little sea water? They might get a little thirsty out
there treading water after the tsunami?
\_ The sea transport being cheaper than airlifting reference
was in response to importing crap vs. building it here.
I wasn't saying we should sea-transport the water. I was
pointing out that there's gotta be some other water source
on either side of the globe that is closer to the victims
than 12 time zones away.
\_ Water water everywhere but not a drop tp drink.
\_ BTW, does the USS Lincoln have the facility to desalinate sea water?
\_ Likely, but mass-desalination is expensive. There is desalination
equipment being sent to the disaster zone from a number of
countries.
\- this plan is so retarded,i cant believe it is not a hoax.
or that BART came up with the idea. --psb
\- this plan is so retarded, i cant believe it is not a hoax.
i could believe BART came up with the idea. --psb
\_ 400k gallons per day.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier3.htm
This ought to be enough for the victims to drink.
\_ The population of Aceh was 4.2 million in 2000.
Can anyone find numbers on how many of those people
are without fresh water? |
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| www.bart.gov/news/features/features20050107.asp -> www.bart.gov/news/features/features20050107.asp?ct=1 nearby Wells Fargo branch: Bay Area Tsunami Relief Train Donation Account. This is an ambitious effort called The Bay Area Tsunami Relief Train. Pro ject Concern International, Singapore Airlines, Safeway Incs Northern C alifornia Division, Grant and Smith, LLP, Wells Fargo Bank and BART are organizing the effort, but it will be the generous donations of Bay Area residents that will make the Bay Area Tsunami Relief Train a reality. Thanks to this unique alliance, 100 percent of the contribution s will go toward purchasing the bottled water. GETTING THE WATER TO THE VICTIMS Singapore Airlines is donating cargo space to transport 20 tons of water -- enough to provide 34,000 people with a serving of life-saving liquid. In order to fill that cargo space, the organizations are asking Bay Area residents and BART riders to donate enough money to Project Concern Inte rnational so it can buy at cost 10 tons of water from Safeway. Then, Singapore Airlines will fly the water at no charge to tsunami stric ken areas, where Project Concern International will distribute the bottl es directly to victims. Project Concern International is a global health organization that saves the lives of children and families by preventin g disease and providing access to clean water and nutritious food. Proje ct Concern International already has 250 staff members in India and Indo nesia. Wells Fargo Bank is supporting this effort by facilitating the cash handl ing for the collection of the donations. Wells Fargo is partnering with these organizations to help provide relief for the victims of the tsunamis who have lost so much, said Joanne Schu ltz, Wells Fargos Market President for the San Francisco Financial Distr ict. This catastrophe has also affected many people here in the Bay Area who h ave family and friends in South Asia. In addition to our joint efforts t oday, Wells Fargo has pledged up to $600,000 in donations. The Oakland-based accounting firm of Grant & Smith, LLP, is contributing its time to monitor the cash handling and certification of the donated f unds. Most organizations charged with helping the tsunami victims are asking fo r cash donations because purchasing water and supplies near the disaster area cuts down on shipping costs. However, Singapore Airlines is shippi ng the water for free. Additionally, many organizations, including Proje ct Concern International, are finding it extremely difficult to locate a nd purchase clean drinking water near the disaster areas because manufac turers cannot keep up with the overwhelming demand. The Bay Area Tsunami Relief Train will quickly get the water directly to the people who need it most. |
| people.howstuffworks.com/aircraft-carrier3.htm Northrop Grumman Newport News in Newport News, Virginia. To make the construction process more efficient, most of each supercarrier is assemb led in separate modular pieces called superlifts. Each superlift may con tain many compartments (rooms), spanning multiple decks, and they can we igh anywhere from 80 to 900 tons (70 to 800 metric tons). A supercarrie r is made up of almost 200 separate superlifts. Northrop Grumman Newport News The USS Ronald Reagan, under construction in the Northrop Grumman Newport News dry dock Before placing a superlift module into the ship, the construction crew as sembles its steel body and hooks up almost all wiring and plumbing. Then they use a giant bridge crane to lift the module and lower it precisely into its proper position inside the ship; Near the end of construction, the crew joins the last m odule, the 575-ton island, to the flight deck. US Navy Lowering superlifts into position on the USS Harry S Truman Just like the family motor boat, an aircraft carrier propels itself throu gh the water by spinning propellers. Of course, at about 21 feet (64 me ters) across, a carrier's four bronze screw propellers are in a very dif ferent league than a recreational boat's. Each propeller is mounted to a long shaft, which is conne cted to a steam turbine powered by a nuclear reactor. nuclear reactors, housed in a heavily-armored, heav ily restricted area in the middle of the ship, generate loads of high-pr essure steam to rotate fan blades inside the turbine. The fans turn the turbine shaft, which rotates the screw propellers to push the ship forwa rd, while massive rudders steer the ship. The four onboard turbines also generate electricity to power the ship's v arious electric and electronic systems. This includes an onboard desalin ation plant that can turn 400,000 gallons (1,500,000 liters) of saltwat er into drinkable freshwater every day -- that's enough for 2,000 homes. Unlike the old oil-boiler carriers, modern nuclear carriers don't have to refuel regularly. power plant, a longer, more co mplicated refueling process (it takes several years) and the added risk of a nuclear disaster at sea. To minimize the risk of such a catastrophe , the reactors inside a supercarrier are heavily shielded and closely mo nitored. Big Numbers These stats paint a nice picture of the scope of a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier. |