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2005/1/12 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic/Election] UID:35677 Activity:nil
1/12    Where's the guy who predicted that the Republicans would
        get a do-over in Washington?
        http://csua.org/u/aoj
        \_  "A two-week delay is a small price to pay to restore confidence in
             this election," said Republican Rep. Mike Armstrong. "This is a
             historic time and we cannot afford to rush this process."
             Oh, the Irony.
            \_ Again, you confuse imagined disenfranchisement with dead
               people voting, mysteriously appearing ballots, and poll
               workers actively changing votes.
        \_  Thus ends democracy.
        \_  Uh, the Opinion Journal article ended like this:
            "[Gregoire] would do well to recall what happened in Minnesota
            after the 1962 election for governor there. Republican Elmer
            Anderson won a squeaker and was sworn in, but a recount of disputed
            ballots ground on. A hundred days into Mr. Anderson's term, a panel
            of three state judges ruled that Democrat Karl Rolvaag had actually
            won by 91 votes. To end the legal wrangling, Mr. Anderson dropped
            any appeals and calmly left office, allowing Mr. Rolvaag to move
            into the governor's mansion."
            http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110006139
            \_ I lost all respect for that rag after they repeated the
               Drudge sourced Kerry intern rumours.
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All Election Coverage Republicans' attempt to delay the election certification failed Tuesday a fter an hour of debate. Just one Democrat crossed party lines to side wi th the GOP effort. Gregoire lost the first two counts, then won by just 129 votes after a ha nd recount of 29 million ballots. Next comes Gregoire's inauguration, p lanned for noon Wednesday and then it's on to the courts. A hearing in Republican Dino Rossi's effort to force a new election is scheduled for Friday. The certification of the election by the Legislature is normally a formal ity. But during Tuesday's debate, Republicans pleaded in vain for a wait ing period instead. "A two-week delay is a small price to pay to restore confidence in this e lection," said Republican Rep. "This is a historic time and we cannot afford to rush this process." But Senate Majority Leader Lisa Brown, a Democrat, said, "No do-over, no delay." Gregoire acknowledged the hard feelings later as she thanked the Legislat ure. "I strongly believe that we owe it to the people of Washington to get on with the business of the state," Gregoire said in a statement. "One of t hose challenges will be to improve the state's election process." During the counting and recounting of the governor's election, many quest ions and discrepancies have surfaced. One of the main arguments in the R epublicans' lawsuit is that King County, a Democratic stronghold and the state's largest county, cannot match more than a thousand votes to actu al voter names. That discrepancy, Rossi argues, makes the election inval id on its face. Democrats disagree, saying the GOP lacks evidence of illegal votes and th e state constitution sets a very high bar for throwing out the results o f an election. They say the revote that Rossi wants would be unconstitut ional. While legislators met, about 1,800 Rossi supporters were outside to press their demand for a revote, and about 200 Gregoire supporters held a cou nterdemonstration. The informati on contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewr itten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associ ated Press.
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Advertisement JOHN FUND ON THE TRAIL Don't Count Rossi Out A stolen election in Washington state? Monday, January 10, 2005 12:01 am EST The new media--talk radio, bloggers and independent watchdog groups--have followed up their success in exposing Dan Rather's use of phony memos b y showcasing another scandal: Washington state's bizarre race for govern or, which features a vote count so close and compromised it allows Flori da to retire the crown for electoral incompetence. If Democrat Christine Gregoire, who leads by 129 votes and is scheduled to take the office We dnesday, eventually has to face a new election, it will have been in lar ge part because of the new media's ability to give the story altitude be fore it reached the courts. When the idea of a revote was first broached three weeks ago by a moderat e Republican former secretary of state, Ms Gregoire's reaction was swif t: "Absolutely ludicrous." 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